| Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348705] |
Sun, 29 September 2019 20:10  |
Kevin F
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Hi guys,
Looking for some advise on upgrading the mid wheels to disc brakes. I know Dave makes a nice system but was curious what ebrake systems would work with it. If anyone has a similar set up I like to know what you like/dislike etc and if there were any issues with the install.
Thanx guys
Kevin
1977 GMC Royale 403
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348709 is a reply to message #348705] |
Sun, 29 September 2019 21:27  |
Scott Nutter
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When I get my California property taxes paid this year, my next purchase will be Dave Lenzi's mid rear disc brakes with the parking brake setup.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348727 is a reply to message #348705] |
Mon, 30 September 2019 10:12 |
jhbridges
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Just paid mine. $528 for house and 2 1/2 acre lot. Including GMC shelter.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348747 is a reply to message #348705] |
Mon, 30 September 2019 19:33 |
Scott Nutter
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Johnny,
Save me a space....I'm moving in!!!
Scott
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348758 is a reply to message #348705] |
Tue, 01 October 2019 07:58 |
jhbridges
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As long as you don't mimic the a$$holes who sleaze up here from the city and then try to make it a city in outlook. Road Atlanta is like half a mile from me. They built this subdivision up the highway a bit. All the inhabitants bitch about the noise from the racetrack. I'm like how stupid can you be to buy a medium high dollar house without cruising the neighborhood? In that they have an HOA, the answer is pretty stupid. Some stop or cruise slowly by when they see my GMC though. I'm walking Duke a few years back, one of these bozos says the HOA only allows 35 pound dogs. I told him he should weigh the boy if he thinks he can get away with it (Duke was a 130 pound Kuvasz boy) and we had Words along the lines of it's a county road, I'll walk it as I please.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348772 is a reply to message #348758] |
Tue, 01 October 2019 10:53 |
Keith V
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What ever you do, get the Full Floating Brakes ( Aka reaction arm), drum or disk, as that is the only thing that will prevent the forward trailing arm from jacking up the coach when you stop.
Nothing else matters
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake
As long as you don't mimic the a$$holes who sleaze up here from the city and then try to make it a city in outlook. Road Atlanta is like half a mile
from me. They built this subdivision up the highway a bit. All the inhabitants bitch about the noise from the racetrack. I'm like how stupid can
you be to buy a medium high dollar house without cruising the neighborhood? In that they have an HOA, the answer is pretty stupid. Some stop or
cruise slowly by when they see my GMC though. I'm walking Duke a few years back, one of these bozos says the HOA only allows 35 pound dogs. I told
him he should weigh the boy if he thinks he can get away with it (Duke was a 130 pound Kuvasz boy) and we had Words along the lines of it's a county
road, I'll walk it as I please.
--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348781 is a reply to message #348772] |
Tue, 01 October 2019 12:22 |
Bill Van Vlack
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I don't believe reaction arms for the mids are possible with Dave Lenzi's system. Curious what just a reaction arm on the rears would do - if anything.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348787 is a reply to message #348705] |
Tue, 01 October 2019 13:27 |
habbyguy
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FWIW, I was looking for better brakes without breaking the bank, and ended up installing a set of high-performance pads from Jim K (awesome pads, BTW), as well as a set of the larger slave cylinders on the middle axles. The theory is that will put proportionally more braking on the middle axles than the rears. All I know is that my coach went from being a white-knuckle driver in traffic to one that'll stop when and where I want it to. Sure, if I'm tailgating a 'vette and he slams on the brakes my Royale is going to have a fiberglass hood ornament, but the coach really does stop impressively well now.
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348818 is a reply to message #348705] |
Wed, 02 October 2019 12:16 |
jhbridges
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Empirically on the 23' and the 26' marked stopping improvement. Would not mess much with one without.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348825 is a reply to message #348787] |
Wed, 02 October 2019 14:57 |
Kevin F
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habbyguy wrote on Tue, 01 October 2019 13:27FWIW, I was looking for better brakes without breaking the bank, and ended up installing a set of high-performance pads from Jim K (awesome pads, BTW), as well as a set of the larger slave cylinders on the middle axles. The theory is that will put proportionally more braking on the middle axles than the rears. All I know is that my coach went from being a white-knuckle driver in traffic to one that'll stop when and where I want it to. Sure, if I'm tailgating a 'vette and he slams on the brakes my Royale is going to have a fiberglass hood ornament, but the coach really does stop impressively well now.
Can you send me the name and part numbers of what you had installed on the coach?
Thanx
1977 GMC Royale 403
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| Re: Mid wheel brake systems / E-brake [message #348861 is a reply to message #348825] |
Thu, 03 October 2019 10:45 |
habbyguy
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The brake shoes were the part number GM04-METBRASH from Applied (Jim K).
The brake cylinder was the 1-1/16" (vs. stock 15/16") unit, part number GM4-020-12.1
HUGE difference in braking, though I also put in a brake spring / bushing kit and of course cleaned and adjusted everything.
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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