| Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290696] |
Sat, 21 November 2015 23:11  |
djeffers
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How best to remove the vinyl stripe that goes across the front and down the sides?
I only need to remove a small one foot section at this time, but we would like to replace the complete front cap stripe as it is getting pretty faded.
I searched the Forum and found several suggestions, all several years old.
I tried the Harbor Freight heat gun and a putty knife with less than satisfactory results. The stripe comes off in many, many little pieces leaving glue. Should I use a real razor blade?
I do have acetone for the glue removal.
Any new suggestions? And what the heck is a "plastic razor blade?"
Thanks,
Don and Susan Jeffers
78 Eleganza II
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| Re: Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290706 is a reply to message #290696] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 06:23  |
rcjordan
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Kerry, how many extra 92297 discs did it take to finish the job?
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290708 is a reply to message #290706] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 06:32 |
Les
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3M woodgrain and stripe remover, most any paint store, did a great job, took all day for a full coach and kinda expensive, was 17.00 a can ten years ago, good luck ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Les
76 Glenbrook
Meredith NH
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 05:23:11 -0700
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II
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> Kerry, how many extra 92297 discs did it take to finish the job?
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| Re: Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290712 is a reply to message #290706] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 07:42 |
kerry pinkerton
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I used two total but my stripe had been overpainted with enamel paint and that took a good bit of extra time and effort for the wheel to remove. You MIGHT be able to do a standard coach with one wheel. I used a HF variable speed buffer/polisher and it worked really nice. Too fast and it burns the paint.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290713 is a reply to message #290696] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 07:43 |
rcjordan
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> Too fast and it burns the paint.
10-4
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290725 is a reply to message #290720] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 11:35 |
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ljdavick
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That would have made a great Robin Hood YouTube video!
Bob, did you use the torch even on the hood section?
Larry Davick
> On Nov 22, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
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> I removed the stripes on both 78 Royales this year. The burned GMC last summer. Then the stripes on the one I'm restoring now. Fairly simple, with no damage to the paint on the one that burned. The other Royale had a second vinyl stripe applied vary carefully over the original. Thus removing both at the same time. I did have a vary small amount of base paint come off. Maybe about 3 square inches total. I used a propane torch with a 75% flame. And on a day with the the temp above 70 degrees. It's important to keep the flame moving over about a 12 inch area. Use a plastic putty knife, or a body filler apply tool. Use that to get a starter edge up. Then just start pulling gently with your fingers slowly. Once I got the heat right. I could pull several ft at a time. It took me about 2 hrs to remove both the narrow, and wide stripes off.
> Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI2- 78 Royales1- 73
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1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290728 is a reply to message #290725] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 14:32 |
George B.
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I have a 76 Birch, stripes were flaking so I used a pressure washer and it took the stripes off without too much effort. Only thing to watch out with this method is if any of your paint is chipped or cracked I would not recommend as the pressure wash could lift the paint too. Also if your stripes are not cracked but just faded I do not know how pressure washing would work as the cracks give an edge for the pressure wash to grab.
Some adhesive was left behind but I was able to remove it by lightly wet sanding with 650, 1000 & 2000 grit paper. The wet sanding also helps to blend the faded paint to the original unfaded paint under the stripes. This was an original Emron paint. I do not know how the wet sanding would work on a coach that has been repainted in the past. Follow up buffing with polishing compound.
This worked for me.
George Butts
Las Vegas Nevada
73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
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| Re: Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290748 is a reply to message #290696] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 20:29 |
GeorgeRud
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I used a decal removing wheel that mounts onto a drill. Kind of like a circular eraser. It worked, but took about three of them to remove my stripes as they wear down as you use them. Still have adhesive left, but hope to slowly work on that once spring hits once again. My coach is currently buried under the 8" of snow we got last night.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290753 is a reply to message #290751] |
Sun, 22 November 2015 23:19 |
sgltrac
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Rubber wheel in a die grinder will remove the vinyl and the adhesive and
not damage the paint on the alum or composite panels. Google 3m vinyl
stripe remover wheel and buy a few of em. If you buy enough they will throw
in the tool with it.
Sully
77 Royale
Seattle
On Sunday, November 22, 2015, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
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> I used the same method on the hood panels as every were else. I did have
> to use some 3M adhesive remover in some areas. I had no paint damage
> anywhere. It's a vary simple job. And keep the torch moving in a small
> circular motion. But you MUST stay focused on the task. My best advice is
> to have absolutely NO ONE around to distract you. If you don't want to try
> this alone. You could have someone run the torch. And the other person peal
> the vinyl.Bob Dunahugh
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> I removed the stripes on both 78 Royales this year. The burned GMC last
> summer. Then the stripes on the one I'm restoring now. Fairly simple, with
> no damage to the paint on the one that burned. The other Royale had a
> second vinyl stripe applied vary carefully over the original. Thus removing
> both at the same time. I did have a vary small amount of base paint come
> off. Maybe about 3 square inches total. I used a propane torch with a 75%
> flame. And on a day with the the temp above 70 degrees. It's important to
> keep the flame moving over about a 12 inch area. Use a plastic putty knife,
> or a body filler apply tool. Use that to get a starter edge up. Then just
> start pulling gently with your fingers slowly. Once I got the heat right. I
> could pull several ft at a time. It took me about 2 hrs to remove both the
> narrow, and wide stripes off.
> Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI2- 78 Royales1- 73
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Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290754 is a reply to message #290747] |
Mon, 23 November 2015 03:32 |
Mr ERFisher
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Hummmm
Still on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Hot-Blade-Decal-Remover-Remove-Auto-Decals-Pin-Stripes-Tape-Stickers-US-/271290657568
On Sunday, November 22, 2015, Don Jeffers wrote:
> Mr ERFisher wrote on Sun, 22 November 2015 07:09
>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015, Don Jeffers
>> wrote:
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>>> How best to remove the vinyl stripe that goes across the front and
> down
>>> the sides?
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>>> I only need to remove a small one foot section at this time, but we
> would
>>> like to replace the complete front cap stripe as it is getting pretty
>>> faded.
>>>
>>> I searched the Forum and found several suggestions, all several years
> old.
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>> This did not give us much info
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>> I used this
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-chemicals-and-tools/p31661-vinyl-strip-remover.html
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> Susan and I went to Harbor Freight today and they had never heard of this
> tool. Perhaps too many years ago.
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> Thanks for the suggestion; we will keep looking.
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> Regards,
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> Don and Susan Jeffers
> 78 Eleganza II
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| Re: Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290755 is a reply to message #290696] |
Mon, 23 November 2015 06:18 |
rcjordan
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There's a 60w model, too. For $10, I want one for removing misc adhesives, labels, & stickers. Thanks, Gene.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290804 is a reply to message #290696] |
Mon, 23 November 2015 19:21 |
Dan
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I know this is the the lazy way out and frowned upon but I just put a new stripe over my old one. Sanded off any existing decals. It not restoration quality, but the coach looks handsome in my opinion. Gotta use your time wisely with a newborn in the house.
Dan
Dan DeLuca
1978 Eleganza II (http://imgur.com/gallery/YFHhK)
Parked at Evil Monkey Farm in
Allentown, New Jersey
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| Re: Vinyl Stripe Removal 78 El II [message #290921 is a reply to message #290696] |
Wed, 25 November 2015 00:45 |
djeffers
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Thanks to all for the suggestions and help.
I've taken the stripes off small 1 ft x 1 ft body repair sections of an early coach and a 75 or 76 coach.
Heat and a sharpened putty knife removed the stripes in bits and pieces. The heat softened and tended to bubble the early panel's paint, but the later panel's Imron took the heat well.
Acetone took the glue off the early body panel easily, but the later model glue is resistant. Acetone never did get it all off. Will try some 3M products later.
I've yet to cut out and remove the one foot section from the vinyl stripe of '78, but that will come later.
Thanks again to all.
Don and Susan Jeffers
78 Eleganza II
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