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[GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239333] Sun, 09 February 2014 19:52 Go to next message
glwgmc is currently offline  glwgmc   United States
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Hi all,

While on this relaxing trip I have allowed my mind to wander around the question as to why the Clasco seems to consume copious amount of oil- a quart every tank of fuel. It runs well, shows no evidence of leakage or smoke but every time I check it is a quart low. I celebrated the dip stick and it appears to be spot on.

I came across this from another forum:

"

One of my other vehicles is a GMC motorhome, they have a known issue with oil consumption if a car engine ( Olds 455 ) is used with the car valve covers. They still have baffles, just not good enough.
the motorhome and high performance 455 valve covers have really good baffles for the PVC and the breather as the breather will suck oil at WOT.

So you do need baffles, good baffles or you will suck oil out of the engine. And no, it will not show up on the plugs.
"

Does this ring any bells with any of you?

Jerry

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Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239335 is a reply to message #239333] Sun, 09 February 2014 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glwgmc wrote on Sun, 09 February 2014 17:52

Hi all,
I celebrated the dip stick and it appears to be spot on.



While I enjoy a good dipstick as well as the next fellow, I would recommend calibrating it, rather than celebrating it.


1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239337 is a reply to message #239333] Sun, 09 February 2014 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glwgmc wrote on Sun, 09 February 2014 17:52

Hi all,

While on this relaxing trip I have allowed my mind to wander around the question as to why the Clasco seems to consume copious amount of oil- a quart every tank of fuel. It runs well, shows no evidence of leakage or smoke but every time I check it is a quart low. I celebrated the dip stick and it appears to be spot on.

I came across this from another forum:

"

One of my other vehicles is a GMC motorhome, they have a known issue with oil consumption if a car engine ( Olds 455 ) is used with the car valve covers. They still have baffles, just not good enough.
the motorhome and high performance 455 valve covers have really good baffles for the PVC and the breather as the breather will suck oil at WOT.

So you do need baffles, good baffles or you will suck oil out of the engine. And no, it will not show up on the plugs.
"

Does this ring any bells with any of you?

Jerry




While they all pull a tiny amount of oil vapor, a quart a tankful (wow, finally someone who uses more oil than my coach) you should see if you pull the PCV hose. I cleaned my hose with a Q-Tip and ran it again. Second swipe showed no liquid oil.

But, hey, mine acts like yours. Not dripping. Been followed for miles, up and down. Checked and rechecked the PCV. Buy the cheap WallyWorld oil and dump it in daily like I used to do my 50 Chevy when I was a kid. At least the Chevy had the decency to boil out blue smoke when I stepped on the gas after letting off.


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George
Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239339 is a reply to message #239333] Sun, 09 February 2014 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glwgmc wrote on Sun, 09 February 2014 19:52

Hi all,

While on this relaxing trip I have allowed my mind to wander around the question as to why the Clasco seems to consume copious amount of oil- a quart every tank of fuel. It runs well, shows no evidence of leakage or smoke but every time I check it is a quart low. I celebrated the dip stick and it appears to be spot on.

I came across this from another forum:

"

One of my other vehicles is a GMC motorhome, they have a known issue with oil consumption if a car engine ( Olds 455 ) is used with the car valve covers. They still have baffles, just not good enough.
the motorhome and high performance 455 valve covers have really good baffles for the PVC and the breather as the breather will suck oil at WOT.

So you do need baffles, good baffles or you will suck oil out of the engine. And no, it will not show up on the plugs.
"

Does this ring any bells with any of you?

Jerry

Jerry Work
The Dovetail Joint



Jerry

Yes, the issue of correct valve covers has come up several times. Especially owners with aluminum valve covers have questioned if this is the cause of their oil consumption.

Dennis


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Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239340 is a reply to message #239333] Sun, 09 February 2014 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdub is currently offline  bdub   United States
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Have you tried running a quart low to see if it will hold or at least slow
consumption at that level?

And, yes, there was a thread long ago where someone installed chrome valve
covers that caused much increased oil consumption.

bdub

On Feb 9, 2014 7:52 PM, "Gerald Work" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> While on this relaxing trip I have allowed my mind to wander around the
question as to why the Clasco seems to consume copious amount of oil- a
quart every tank of fuel. It runs well, shows no evidence of leakage or
smoke but every time I check it is a quart low. I celebrated the dip stick
and it appears to be spot on.
>
> I came across this from another forum:

> "One of my other vehicles is a GMC motorhome, they have a known issue
with oil consumption if a car engine ( Olds 455 ) is used with the car
valve covers. They still have baffles, just not good enough.
> the motorhome and high performance 455 valve covers have really good
baffles for the PVC and the breather as the breather will suck oil at WOT.
>
> So you do need baffles, good baffles or you will suck oil out of the
engine. And no, it will not show up on the plugs.
> "
>
> Does this ring any bells with any of you?
>
> Jerry
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239345 is a reply to message #239335] Sun, 09 February 2014 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry,
Try running it a quart lower and see if the consumption goes down.
You know about the one quart hanging up in the front par of the pan.
I'm not much of a speller, but caught the celebrating.
I know you well enough to know I could never catch you on something like
that, but I hope we can have a good laugh.


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:59 PM, David Orders <dao@oarsllc.com> wrote:

>
>
> glwgmc wrote on Sun, 09 February 2014 17:52
> > Hi all,
> > I celebrated the dip stick and it appears to be spot on.
>
>
> While I enjoy a good dipstick as well as the next fellow, I would
> recommend calibrating it, rather than celebrating it.
>
> --
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> - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we
> treat one another is entirely up to us."
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Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239351 is a reply to message #239333] Sun, 09 February 2014 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gbarrow2 is currently offline  gbarrow2   United States
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Jerry,

Check this thread on Oil Consumption from early March 2011.

I had the same symptoms with my Bob Lamey built 455 with about 60000 miles on it.
I asked the net for help and got many suggestions and a lot of good information but no definitive diagnosis or solution.

I wasn't willing to pull the intake manifold in the "hope" that I would find an internal leak. I just kept adding oil and driving it.

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?
t=tree&goto=118358&rid=267#msg_118358

Good luck


Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239352 is a reply to message #239333] Sun, 09 February 2014 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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What oil are you running? Mine uses 1 Qt per 2500 miles with Rotella 5w-40 full synth (blue jug). Engine has about 9000 on it since replacement.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Question on oil consumption on the Clasco [message #239369 is a reply to message #239335] Mon, 10 February 2014 06:17 Go to previous message
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Well, if we have a cult of the flying spaghetti monster, can the cult of the accurate dipstick be far behind?  We'd consider the transmissionists a splinter group.
 
johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
 

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glwgmc wrote on Sun, 09 February 2014 17:52
> Hi all,
> I celebrated the dip stick and it appears to be spot on.


While I enjoy a good dipstick as well as the next fellow, I would recommend calibrating it, rather than celebrating it.

--
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