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[GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238259] Fri, 31 January 2014 17:54 Go to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

While searching for some photos of the LPG tank I stumbled on this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gas-tank-leak-repair/p34173-easy-access.html

I've posted it because there was some discussion awhile back about not using two post lifts for a GMC.

Looks OK to me!

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238262 is a reply to message #238259] Fri, 31 January 2014 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now THAT is a SERIOUS two-post lift!

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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:54:12 +1100
> Subject: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift!
>
> G'day,
>
> While searching for some photos of the LPG tank I stumbled on this:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gas-tank-leak-repair/p34173-easy-access.html
>
> I've posted it because there was some discussion awhile back about not using two post lifts for a GMC.
>
> Looks OK to me!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238279 is a reply to message #238259] Fri, 31 January 2014 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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USAussie wrote on Fri, 31 January 2014 18:54

G'day,

While searching for some photos of the LPG tank I stumbled on this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gas-tank-leak-repair/p34173-easy-access.html

I've posted it because there was some discussion awhile back about not using two post lifts for a GMC.

Looks OK to me!

Regards,

Rob,

If you notice, he was careful to get the arms as far out as they could be. I still wish I knew what that local shop had done to bend Frank Sargent's brand new coach, but I could never get an answer.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238282 is a reply to message #238279] Fri, 31 January 2014 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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A freind has a hoist like that and has welded 3/4" plate extensions each side of the post feet. Making the footprint over 36" long. Lots of Quick bolts to hold it down also.
Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238291 is a reply to message #238259] Fri, 31 January 2014 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238316 is a reply to message #238259] Fri, 31 January 2014 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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It is nice that he got some final pictures of it before it crashed. It was a nice looking coach.

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238324 is a reply to message #238259] Sat, 01 February 2014 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Regardless of lift capacity, I wouldn't do it unless the stern was empty inside and there was no water, sewage, or Onan aboard!

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238331 is a reply to message #238324] Sat, 01 February 2014 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loffen is currently offline  Loffen   Norway
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I say Noothiing Cool

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238337 is a reply to message #238259] Sat, 01 February 2014 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve is currently offline  Steve   United States
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I see it. But I don't like it.

Nice coach.


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238343 is a reply to message #238259] Sat, 01 February 2014 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oldngray is currently offline  Oldngray   United States
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Rob, that is my Coach. I was removing the Fuel tanks and replacing all of the fuel lines, I use the lift whenever I have a need. Sure makes it easy to work on everything under there.


Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238347 is a reply to message #238343] Sat, 01 February 2014 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That would be great to have -- but if I was using it, I'd have a couple of
joist jacks, one under each end to prevent rocking about that center lift.
Something like:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Tiger-Brand-Super-S-8-ft-4-in-Jack-Post-J-S-100/100022783?N=5yc1vZaqzs

JWID,


Ken H.

On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Richard MacDonald wrote:

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> Rob, that is my Coach. I was removing the Fuel tanks and replacing all of
> the fuel lines, I use the lift whenever I have a need. Sure makes it easy
> to work on everything under there.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238375 is a reply to message #238343] Sat, 01 February 2014 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What type of footing are the posts on?

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> On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Richard MacDonald <rm1936@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Rob, that is my Coach. I was removing the Fuel tanks and replacing all of the fuel lines, I use the lift whenever I have a need. Sure makes it easy to work on everything under there.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238398 is a reply to message #238343] Sat, 01 February 2014 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Richard,

You're as lucky as me, I have access to a four wheel lift in Sydney and JohnS and I have one in Humble.

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard MacDonald

Rob, that is my Coach. I was removing the Fuel tanks and replacing all of the fuel lines, I use the lift whenever I have a need.
Sure makes it easy to work on everything under there.

Richard

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238436 is a reply to message #238324] Sat, 01 February 2014 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Didn't the pic show that there were LONG flat steel plates that spread the load over six or more feet? ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~ ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~ ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~ ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~ ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ______________ *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\ *--OO--[]---O-*

> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift!
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> Regardless of lift capacity, I wouldn't do it unless the stern was empty inside and there was no water, sewage, or Onan aboard!
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> 73 Glacier 260
> Smithfield, Va.


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238443 is a reply to message #238436] Sat, 01 February 2014 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

It appears there are 2 x 4's (?) between the rear pads and the frame.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=34176

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=34177

As far as not doing it from where I sit as long as the lift has the capacity 15K and the load is balanced why not?

BTW the photo makes it look like the back is low, HOWEVER, note that the lift is NOT 90° perpendicular in the photo.

Here's an edited version, sure looks like the coach is level to me!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/random-photos/p52751-two-post-lift.html

Richard, I reckon YOU'RE the only guy that KNOWS how steady the GMC was on the lift please comment.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: D C _Mac_ Macdonald

Didn't the pic show that there were LONG flat steel plates that spread the load over six or more feet?

D C

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238444 is a reply to message #238436] Sat, 01 February 2014 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any load spreading foot would require a 3 inch or better I beam extending to just behind the bogie mount on the frame. I don't see it in the pics. If the lift was able to engage the bogie mounts and the front frame near the suspension mounts, that would be the equivalent of the normal support from the suspension. Anything else on these vehicles results in flexure of the frame and body and resultant creaks and leaks.

If I jack up just the front of mine equally on both sides with 2 jacks at the front frame attachment junction (right behind the front wheels)without jacking up the first crossmember also, the door won't close without binding the latch.


Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238459 is a reply to message #238444] Sun, 02 February 2014 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh well..

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238467 is a reply to message #238459] Sun, 02 February 2014 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Apparently, the concept of "balancing the load" is foreign to some folks!


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~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
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~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: bimet@online.no
> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 05:07:53 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift!
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> Oh well..
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> (http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Espen_Heitmann/media/1973%20Sequoia/1781879_811306322229878_1362681544_n_zps9422fb9e.jpg.html)
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238482 is a reply to message #238444] Sun, 02 February 2014 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,
This is a Rotary SPO15, 15000# lift. We have had our Coach on that lift at least 10 times. Do use some 2x's to spread the load on the rear frame. Also the lift points used are where the frame rails are doubled. In the latest picture, looking at the slab section that the posts are attached to, (do not have the dimensions in my head, believe more than 4 ft from joint to joint) that footer is 12 inches thick and it runs across the entire slab. The J bolts are attached to nbr 5 rods on the bottom of the footer.
Stability has not been a issue, I have been in and out of the Coach while elevated,( weigh 210+) the door opens and closes normally. There is some flex while elevated but nothing that causes any concern.
I believe Sirum GMC also uses a two post lift at their shop.

Interesting discussion.




Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] GMC on two post lift! [message #238493 is a reply to message #238482] Sun, 02 February 2014 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Richard, there was a discussion a couple of months back regarding what would be best of a pit or a four post lift, I did mention a 2 post lift and after some discussion I had to go back on it (I am actually still a bit sceptical after taking a close look at my GMC)

And then Rob comes with pictures of yours.. Laughing


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