| Eraser wheel not working [message #349694] |
Sat, 26 October 2019 19:18  |
agoogol
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Help? Trying to remove decal stripes. Heard the eraser wheels work, and watched videos. Looks so easy.
Well, not working. Taking off plenty of eraser, no decal.
Tried various speed and pressure. Nothing.
Any ideas? Heat gun first?
Bought it through Amazon, not a 3M brand, maybe just cheap Chinese junk?
Kevin Carter
1977 Kingsley - 403 c.i.
Centennial CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Eraser wheel not working [message #349695 is a reply to message #349694] |
Sat, 26 October 2019 19:30  |
sgltrac
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The stripe might be clear coated over which would make it considerably
harder to remove. Either that or it’s actually a painted stripe. Or, maybe
your wheel/tool setup sucks. What is the brand of the tool and the wheels?
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM KC via Gmclist
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> Help? Trying to remove decal stripes. Heard the eraser wheels work, and
> watched videos. Looks so easy.
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> Well, not working. Taking off plenty of eraser, no decal.
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> Tried various speed and pressure. Nothing.
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> Any ideas? Heat gun first?
>
> Bought it through Amazon, not a 3M brand, maybe just cheap Chinese junk?
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> Kevin Carter
> 1977 Kingsley
> Centennial CO
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77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Eraser wheel not working [message #349697 is a reply to message #349695] |
Sat, 26 October 2019 19:45 |
agoogol
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Well, the wheel was from Amazon...no brand-name.
The drill I used was a harbor freight one but is a plug in and is pretty powerful. I could try air...
Clear coat. That may be it? But it wouldn't be just on the stripe though right? A clear coat would cover the coach, which there doesn't appear to be one. But there are parts of the stripe that appear like a clear layer was peeling off...will check tomorrow.
Kevin Carter
1977 Kingsley - 403 c.i.
Centennial CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Eraser wheel not working [message #349699 is a reply to message #349697] |
Sat, 26 October 2019 20:08 |
Fipp
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I peeled off all my stripes this spring and replaced them. I used an electric heat gun that I have had for years. I used the highest heat setting and I used a razor blade. I tried the plastic razor blade, didn't work so I would heat the old stripe and start by using the real razor blade to get the stripe started peeling and then use my fingers to pull while keeping the heat gun ahead of my fingers. It takes alot of patience and practice (not to mention sore fingers) to heat the stripes to the point of seperation but once you get the hang of it, you can peel off 3 or 4 feet at a time. I Have the Royale with the three stripes and the dog so you can imagine 70 feet or so of stripes on each side and the back. I really like the look of the stripes I have on now.
Scott D. Fippinger
Aledo, Illinois
1976 Royale
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| Re: Eraser wheel not working [message #349758 is a reply to message #349694] |
Tue, 29 October 2019 14:31 |
GeorgeRud
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That looks like the wheel I used on my coach. I went through 3 of them to get all the striping off, and definitely had to let my drill cool off routinely. It's best to just do a section at a time so you don't get overwhelmed with the project.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Eraser wheel not working [message #349767 is a reply to message #349765] |
Tue, 29 October 2019 19:29 |
sgltrac
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the folks who make the wheels also make a tool designed to spin them at the
correct rpm for efficient removal with minimum wheel consumption. If you
buy a whole pack of wheels they will usually throw in the tool. Astro
pneumatic tool company “smart eraser wheel” 400E.
Good opportunity for a couple people who need to remove the stripes to go
in on. Better to push harder at lower rpm than to let it spin super fast
with lighter pressure as you will build more heat with higher rpm and can
pull the paint off too. Especially on painted plastics.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 5:03 PM Larry Davick via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> In my case it's essential to do one section at a time - I need to rest!
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> I bought two of the wheels and one is chewed up about 1/2 way on just the
> front hatches. I don't have plans to go down the side unless She Who Must
> Be Obeyed decides it would make the coach look pretty...
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> Larry Davick
> A Mystery Machine
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> Fremont, Ca
> Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
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77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Eraser wheel not working [message #349770 is a reply to message #349769] |
Tue, 29 October 2019 21:14 |
sgltrac
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You bet Tom. That is the one. We use those wheels exclusively due to their
narrow contact area(easier to maneuver around obstacles) as well as less
fatigue. They can be run until about and inch and 3/4 diameter safely
before the steel insert becomes exposed.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 6:48 PM Tom Newell via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Thanks, Sully, for the heads up on the Astro Pneumatic set.
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> Just to confirm, is this the set you recommend?
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> https://www.amazon.com/Astro-232-ONYX-Pinstripe-Removal/dp/B007C4O1ZC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=astro+232&qid=1572399822&sr=8-1#
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> Thanks,
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> Tom Newell
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77 Royale basket case.
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Eraser wheel not working [message #349776 is a reply to message #349772] |
Thu, 31 October 2019 07:11 |
Rich Kinas
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When I removed my stripe, just a few months ago, I used the " ABN Rubber
Eraser Wheel 4in Pad & Adapter". After much trial and error, this is what I
found: The eraser wheel works best when used at relatively low speed to
peel the decal off. It's like using you thumb to roll a decal off once you
get a corner off. In other words I always attacked the edge of the decal,
with the wheel trying to lift the decal, slow and steady pace. Once you get
a feel for it, it goes rather quickly (again relatively speaking). I would
just attach the decal for an hour a night. It took me about two weeks at
this pace. I should mention that there were a couple of spots where the
decal was really really adhered to the paint mostly below the drivers and
passengers side windows. For these areas I was getting frustrated with the
pace of the progress and so started to use the heat and razor blade process
to good effect. Although for the heat I would just use the eraser wheel to
heat up the decal by making a few passes over the leading 1 inch where I
was working. You have to be careful with the razor blade though because the
paint also gets a little soft and the razor blade can dig in and quickly
take you to the primer (just more body work getting ready to re-prime).
Rich
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:43 PM Larry Davick via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I had removed the stripes from the driver's side using my cordless
> electric drill. It was certainly spinning faster than my plug-in drill
> that is
> limited to 1,000 rpm. The wheel I used says not to exceed 4,000 rpm, but
> I don't remember if the faster drill was any more effective than the slow
> drill. They both worked well.
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> I do recommend having good light so that you can carefully watch what's
> going on. The stripe adhesive is clear and without careful inspection it
> can
> be missed. It comes off as easily as the stripe.
> --
> Larry Davick
> A Mystery Machine
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> Fremont, Ca
> Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
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1976 Elaganza II
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