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What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249467] Mon, 12 May 2014 02:45 Go to next message
Loffen is currently offline  Loffen   Norway
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Just found a pump at a Swedish/Norwegian retail store that gives 0.27 to 0.40 bar for $ 58 and it looks identical to the original Onan pump, take a look here http://www.biltema.no/no/Bil---MC/Bilreservedeler/Motorstyring/Luft--drivstoff/Drivstoffpumpe/Elektrisk-drivstoffpumpe-523226/

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Re: [GMCnet] What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249468 is a reply to message #249467] Mon, 12 May 2014 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here is some poop
http://gmcmotorhome.info/generator.html#pump

erf


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Espen Heitmann wrote:

> Just found a pump at a Swedish/Norwegian retail store that gives 0.27 to
> 0.40 bar for $ 58 and it looks identical to the original Onan pump, take a
> look here
> http://www.biltema.no/no/Bil---MC/Bilreservedeler/Motorstyring/Luft--drivstoff/Drivstoffpumpe/Elektrisk-drivstoffpumpe-523226/
> --
> 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Mean Green Machine
> And A 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel
> in Norway
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Re: [GMCnet] What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249469 is a reply to message #249468] Mon, 12 May 2014 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, according to the link it is 2-4 psi, the one I found is 4-6 psi, would the needle in the onan carb handle the extra pressure ?

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Re: [GMCnet] What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249470 is a reply to message #249469] Mon, 12 May 2014 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not very well
and onan carb is not very good
erf


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Espen Heitmann wrote:

> Thanks, according to the link it is 2-4 psi, the one I found is 4-6 psi,
> would the needle in the onan card take the extra pressure ?
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> And A 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel
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Re: What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249491 is a reply to message #249467] Mon, 12 May 2014 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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Loffen wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 02:45
Just found a pump at a Swedish/Norwegian retail store that gives 0.27 to 0.40 bar for $ 58 and it looks identical to the original Onan pump, take a look here http://www.biltema.no/no/Bil---MC/Bilreservedeler/Motorstyring/Luft--drivstoff/Drivstoffpumpe/Elektrisk-drivstoffpumpe-523226/
That's about twice the pressure you want. (I had to get the internet to convert bars to PSI for me.)
Re: What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249531 is a reply to message #249467] Mon, 12 May 2014 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That Elektrisk drivstoffpumpe looks like a rotary pump.
I think the Onan pump is vibrating pump, similar to what they put on MGs in the 1960s.
It makes a ticking sound as it pumps.


Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States 1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon 455 F Block, G heads San Jose
Re: What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249534 is a reply to message #249467] Mon, 12 May 2014 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's one that has been used to fuel the Onan:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/933

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6064/00515.JPG


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Re: What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249536 is a reply to message #249531] Mon, 12 May 2014 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bwevers wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 23:53
That Elektrisk drivstoffpumpe looks like a rotary pump.
I think the Onan pump is vibrating pump, similar to what they put on MGs in the 1960s.
It makes a ticking sound as it pumps.


Scroll down, pump # 2

I think the original pump was made faucet and they where used in almost anything, even airplanes, I guess I have to open up the old one I got on the shelf to see if there is some sort of regulator inside it.


1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway
Re: What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249538 is a reply to message #249536] Mon, 12 May 2014 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Loffen wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 17:29
bwevers wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 23:53
That Elektrisk drivstoffpumpe looks like a rotary pump.
I think the Onan pump is vibrating pump, similar to what they put on MGs in the 1960s.
It makes a ticking sound as it pumps.


Scroll down, pump # 2

I think the original pump was made faucet and they where used in almost anything, even airplanes, I guess I have to open up the old one I got on the shelf to see if there is some sort of regulator inside it.
Start here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/facet-pump/p7105.html
Re: [GMCnet] What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249548 is a reply to message #249536] Mon, 12 May 2014 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Espen,

I was having problems with my Onan the summer before last and came to the conclusion that it was the fuel pump. I had taken it apart
earlier to check it and found it was OK. When I took it apart the second time I discovered I had reassembled it incorrectly! Ref:
Parts Book 78Z / Figure 28-044E / Page 28-51. For some inexplicable reason I had swapped the position of Key 6 & 7. The gasket
(o-ring) was on "top" of the washer and therefore did not provide a seal as it was up against Key 5 - Retainer! What a dope, eh? At
any rate I replaced the gasket (o-ring), reassembled the pump properly and it worked fine.

However, since I had already purchased the pump below:

http://www.silver-seal.com/product/FEP60SV/Facet-Solid-State-Fuel-Pump-275-4-PSI-36-GPH136-LPH.html

I decided to install it to be on the safe side. I got new fittings and installed them in the pump. Even though it was a brand new
pump I decided to test it before installation. I set the pump case on the negative post of a 12vdc battery and touched the lead to
the positive post. I could feel the electromagnet energize but the piston did not shuttle. What the hell? I disassembled the pump
and found the piston was rusted into its bore. I got a block of wood and slammed the piston end down several times which caused the
piston to pop out enough for me to get a grip on it with a pair of pliers. I pulled it out, cleaned the rust off the piston, the
corrosion in the bore (brass), and reassembled it CORRECTLY! ;-)

The Onan ran just fine all last summer. I also removed the solenoid valve that is upstream of the fuel pump and installed a rebuild
kit in the carb.

You could try and call the company in Norway that is selling the higher pressure pump and see if he has the lower pressure model.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia


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From: Espen Heitmann

Scroll down, pump # 2

I think the original pump was made faucet and they where used in almost anything, even airplanes, I guess I have to open up the old
one I got on the shelf to see if there is some sort of regulator inside it.


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Re: What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249576 is a reply to message #249536] Tue, 13 May 2014 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Loffen wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 17:29
bwevers wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 23:53
That Elektrisk drivstoffpumpe looks like a rotary pump.
I think the Onan pump is vibrating pump, similar to what they put on MGs in the 1960s.
It makes a ticking sound as it pumps.


Scroll down, pump # 2

I think the original pump was made faucet and they where used in almost anything, even airplanes, I guess I have to open up the old one I got on the shelf to see if there is some sort of regulator inside it.


I have one OEM on my airplane. It is used as a boost pump.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: What is the Onan fuel pump pressure ? [message #249577 is a reply to message #249538] Tue, 13 May 2014 04:01 Go to previous message
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A Hamilto wrote on Tue, 13 May 2014 01:04
Loffen wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 17:29
bwevers wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 23:53
That Elektrisk drivstoffpumpe looks like a rotary pump.
I think the Onan pump is vibrating pump, similar to what they put on MGs in the 1960s.
It makes a ticking sound as it pumps.


Scroll down, pump # 2

I think the original pump was made faucet and they where used in almost anything, even airplanes, I guess I have to open up the old one I got on the shelf to see if there is some sort of regulator inside it.
Start here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/facet-pump/p7105.html


Great link !

I suspect that it might just be the spring in the pictures the regulate the pressure, if so it would be an easy swap from the old to a new pump, I guess I have to buy one and check it out.


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