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Johnnycrash is currently offline  Johnnycrash   Canada
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Presenting the previously unknown proposed models of the GMC Motorhome:

Model 170

Model 410

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John Fleming
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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238540 is a reply to message #238538] Sun, 02 February 2014 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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How were you able to do the drawings.

I sure could use help getting drawings like that of our Ultravans.

BTW - No way to drive that 140 model. Very Happy





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Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238541 is a reply to message #238540] Sun, 02 February 2014 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Johnnycrash is currently offline  Johnnycrash   Canada
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Ultravan Owners wrote

How were you able to do the drawings.
CorelDRAW.

Quote:

I sure could use help getting drawings like that of our Ultravans.
Send me dims, pictures, and cash. Cool

Quote:

BTW - No way to drive that 140 model. Very Happy
Why not?? It's just... short.

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Re: [GMCnet] Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238549 is a reply to message #238538] Sun, 02 February 2014 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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John,

Jim Bounds down at the Coop built this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p1041.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p25097-thing-1-awning-2.html

He also built a 21' GMC; unfortunately I don't have a link to a photo of it.

Then there's this monster:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p31715-midnight1.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p31716-midnight2.html

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

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From: John Fleming

Presenting the previously unknown proposed models of the GMC Motorhome:

http://coldnorth.com/johnnycrash/MMI/GMCMH/GMC%20Motorhome%20-%20M170x.jpg

http://coldnorth.com/johnnycrash/MMI/GMCMH/GMC%20Motorhome%20-%20M410x.jpg

John

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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238556 is a reply to message #238538] Sun, 02 February 2014 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnnycrash wrote on Sun, 02 February 2014 15:18

Presenting the previously unknown proposed models of the GMC Motorhome:

Model 170

Model 410

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The 410 looks like the "Midnight Express" -- from Gene's photo album.

Dennis


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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238558 is a reply to message #238556] Sun, 02 February 2014 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dennis S wrote on Sun, 02 February 2014 17:38

Johnnycrash wrote on Sun, 02 February 2014 15:18

Presenting the previously unknown proposed models of the GMC Motorhome:

Model 170

Model 410

.


The 410 looks like the "Midnight Express" -- from Gene's photo album.

Dennis


Here's a photo link

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p11172.html

Dennis


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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238564 is a reply to message #238538] Sun, 02 February 2014 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sure, the 410 looks like Midnight Express. But Midnight Express is only a 320. Where's the fun in trying to park something so short??

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John Fleming
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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238565 is a reply to message #238538] Sun, 02 February 2014 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This link shows 2 original GMCs with two tone colors, looks similar to what is shown here.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-bryant-stuff/p52755-original-2-tone-gmc-co.html


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Re: [GMCnet] Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238581 is a reply to message #238538] Sun, 02 February 2014 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

You have yet to discover the 410-A. The A is for "articulated". Very
similar to my Santa Fe Warbonnet but with the connection between coach
sections, just like a pair of real rail cars.

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY

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>Presenting the previously unknown proposed models of the GMC Motorhome:
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>http://coldnorth.com/johnnycrash/MMI/GMCMH/GMC%20Motorhome%20-%20M170x.jpg
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>http://coldnorth.com/johnnycrash/MMI/GMCMH/GMC%20Motorhome%20-%20M410x.jpg
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Re: [GMCnet] Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238583 is a reply to message #238581] Sun, 02 February 2014 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Byron Songer wrote

The A is for "articulated".
Actually, I just found the documents that outline the specs for the A600, and the massively ridiculous A755 (the maximum legal length allowed on Canadian roads). Images coming soon. Shocked


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Re: [GMCnet] Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238607 is a reply to message #238583] Mon, 03 February 2014 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

FYI, a bit of trivia you may or may not be interested in:

Just a little NW of your town, Timmins, ON, is where GM did the cold weather testing on the GMC MH at Kapuskasing, ON, CA.


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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238611 is a reply to message #238538] Mon, 03 February 2014 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And here they are...

Model 460

Model A600

Model A755 - Dual motor 4WD quad steering setup with far rear steering assist (on demand).

The A600 and A755 have 60º of articulation in both directions from center. The A600 is the size of your typical articulated bus (60').


Anyone have any ideas as to the internal layout to get the most from these?? The placement of the doors and windows was pretty much random. So, they can be moved and placed as needed to accommodate the interior design.


I read the HTA (Highway Traffic Act), and my understanding of it says that these vehicles ARE legal to drive on Canadian roads. Although, the A600 and A755 would need to be SPIF certified.( SPIF = Safe, Productive, Infrastructure-Friendly). Makes sense to me, it's all about wear and tear on the roads. The more tires we add, the more road friends it would be (and the heavier load we can carry - safely).

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Re: [GMCnet] Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238616 is a reply to message #238607] Mon, 03 February 2014 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bryant374 wrote

Just a little NW of your town, Timmins, ON, is where GM did the cold weather testing on the GMC MH at Kapuskasing, ON, CA.
I was aware. In fact, Jaguar used to test their cars here in Timmins. I almost got a job to do some of the driving (they had several cars, of course). I was an alternate driver, in case someone else couldn't. They never called, and then I got another job, so... Oh well.

While you got to drive a Jag all day... It was the same course, all the time, every day. Boring.

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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238625 is a reply to message #238538] Mon, 03 February 2014 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnnycrash wrote on Sun, 02 February 2014 13:18

Presenting the previously unknown proposed models of the GMC Motorhome:

Model 170
...


Due to the increased flexing of the boogie arms with shorter wheelbases turning turns, plus the lower weight of a smaller coach, I would go with a single "axle" on the rear of the 17 foot model. It would also reclaim much needed space inside.


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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238627 is a reply to message #238625] Mon, 03 February 2014 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mike miller wrote

Johnnycrash wrote

Presenting the previously unknown proposed models of the GMC Motorhome: Model 170
Due to the increased flexing of the boogie arms with shorter wheelbases turning turns, plus the lower weight of a smaller coach, I would go with a single "axle" on the rear of the 17 foot model. It would also reclaim much needed space inside.

All true... But it wouldn't look as cool. Cool

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Re: [GMCnet] Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238629 is a reply to message #238611] Mon, 03 February 2014 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Boys and their toys.

Such a hoot.

Byron

ATTENTION: This reply is in reference to what is provided belowŠ

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>
>And here they are...
>
>http://coldnorth.com/johnnycrash/MMI/GMCMH/GMC%20Motorhome%20-%20M460x.jpg
>
>http://coldnorth.com/johnnycrash/MMI/GMCMH/GMC%20Motorhome%20-%20A600x.jpg
>
>http://coldnorth.com/johnnycrash/MMI/GMCMH/GMC%20Motorhome%20-%20A755x.jpg
> - Dual motor 4WD quad steering setup with far rear steering assist (on
>demand).
>
>The A600 and A755 have 60º of articulation in both directions from
>center. The A600 is the size of your typical articulated bus (60').
>
>
>Anyone have any ideas as to the internal layout to get the most from
>these?? The placement of the doors and windows was pretty much random.
>So, they can be moved and placed as needed to accommodate the interior
>design.
>
>
>I read the HTA (Highway Traffic Act), and my understanding of it says
>that these vehicles ARE legal to drive on Canadian roads. Although, the
>A600 and A755 would need to be SPIF certified.( SPIF = Safe, Productive,
>Infrastructure-Friendly). Makes sense to me, it's all about wear and tear
>on the roads. The more tires we add, the more road friends it would be
>(and the heavier load we can carry - safely).
>
>.
>--
>John Fleming
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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238631 is a reply to message #238625] Mon, 03 February 2014 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Model 170S

Just for you Mike. Very Happy


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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238644 is a reply to message #238627] Mon, 03 February 2014 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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or 'stand' on its own two wheels...

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Re: Presenting the unknown GMC MH Models 170 and 410 [message #238648 is a reply to message #238644] Mon, 03 February 2014 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

Your not paying attention to details! GMC's have 8 lug wheels. Laughing

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM
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hal kading wrote

Your not paying attention to details! GMC's have 8 lug wheels. :lol:M
I did notice that. I pulled that tire/wheel from another project for some quick drawings. If it was only that that was wrong with these drawings...


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