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[GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236432] Fri, 17 January 2014 16:58 Go to next message
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I was just browsing for a radio for my sister-in-law and came across these Pioneer "digital media receivers" that do not include a CD or DVD drive. Because of this they are significanly narrower (front to back) and might be easier to install in our coaches. If the link doesn't work search for Pioneer MVH-X360BT or MVH-X560BT

< http://www.crutchfield.com/g_300/All-Car-Stereos.html?tp=5684&nvpair=FFBrand%7cPioneer&nvpair=AG_Type%7cffDigital_Media&nvpair=AG_Size%7cF FSingle-DIN>

I can't think of the last time I listened to a CD in the car.

Larry Davick
Fremont, California
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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236438 is a reply to message #236432] Fri, 17 January 2014 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The 560 is nice. It supports woofers as well as tweeters. With the aux in
(from the back via a cable) just plug you music device into the earphone
plug. To use the phone capability (a mic is included) then sync the phone to
the radio via Bluetooth.

Unless you've done something with your speakers, it might be difficult to
make a call via Bluetooth, however. It works well in a car but, as we all
know, most cars are quieter.

Good price, too.

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY


Larry Davick wrote:

> I was just browsing for a radio for my sister-in-law and came across these
> Pioneer "digital media receivers" that do not include a CD or DVD drive.
> Because of this they are significanly narrower (front to back) and might be
> easier to install in our coaches. If the link doesn't work search for Pioneer
> MVH-X360BT or MVH-X560BT
>
> <http://www.crutchfield.com/g_300/All-Car-Stereos.html?tp=5684&nvpair=FFBrand%
> 7cPioneer&nvpair=AG_Type%7cffDigital_Media&nvpair=AG_Size%7cFFSingle-DIN>
>
> I can't think of the last time I listened to a CD in the car.
>
> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> A Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236452 is a reply to message #236438] Fri, 17 January 2014 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

How easy is it to operate? I have a stereo in Double Trouble that is REALLY hard to operate.

Regards,
Rob M.

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The 560 is nice. It supports woofers as well as tweeters. With the aux in
(from the back via a cable) just plug you music device into the earphone
plug. To use the phone capability (a mic is included) then sync the phone to
the radio via Bluetooth.

Unless you've done something with your speakers, it might be difficult to
make a call via Bluetooth, however. It works well in a car but, as we all
know, most cars are quieter.

Good price, too.

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY


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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236454 is a reply to message #236452] Fri, 17 January 2014 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you are like me Rob then most new stereos are hard to operate ;)

What ever happened to bass/treble/ balance/ and volume knobs?
Wtf!!?

Todd Sullivan

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

> On Jan 17, 2014, at 5:40 PM, "Robert Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> G'day,
>
> How easy is it to operate? I have a stereo in Double Trouble that is REALLY hard to operate.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
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> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:33 AM
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> The 560 is nice. It supports woofers as well as tweeters. With the aux in
> (from the back via a cable) just plug you music device into the earphone
> plug. To use the phone capability (a mic is included) then sync the phone to
> the radio via Bluetooth.
>
> Unless you've done something with your speakers, it might be difficult to
> make a call via Bluetooth, however. It works well in a car but, as we all
> know, most cars are quieter.
>
> Good price, too.
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236461 is a reply to message #236452] Fri, 17 January 2014 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe they connect to your smart-phone and will stream music from them, but I don't know if you can control everything from the phone or if you must use the tiny buttons and twiddlie knob.


Larry Davick
Fremont, California
A Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach

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G'day,

How easy is it to operate? I have a stereo in Double Trouble that is REALLY hard to operate.

Regards,
Rob M.

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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236463 is a reply to message #236461] Fri, 17 January 2014 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No Cd-Rom or DVD means no audio books, without transferring them to a digital media device. So long, CrackerBarrel and cheap rentals.
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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236467 is a reply to message #236461] Fri, 17 January 2014 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/17/2014 6:30 PM, Larry Davick wrote:
> I believe they connect to your smart-phone and will stream music from them, but I don't know if you can control everything from the phone or if you must use the tiny buttons and twiddlie knob.
I don't know about this particular radio, but both models exist. I put a
Dual brand radio in our coach and it allows control from either the
smart phone (or IF you have an iPod/Phone) from the radio.

Byron,
While I agree with you about background noise in the coach,
my Dual radios noise cancelling is EXCELLENT and I can actually use the
bluetooth hands free at freeway speeds.


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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236469 is a reply to message #236454] Fri, 17 January 2014 21:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sully,

Here's what I bought for the VW Towd I'm building:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/custom-autosound-usa-230-car-stereo/p3040276.jcwx?skuId=5588161&

Here's a link to the whole range that JC Whitney sells:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/vintage-look-custom-fit-radios/c547j1s17.jcwx

I reckon I'll replace the one in the GMC with one of the above units.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia


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If you are like me Rob then most new stereos are hard to operate ;)

What ever happened to bass/treble/ balance/ and volume knobs?
Wtf!!?

Sully


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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236512 is a reply to message #236469] Sat, 18 January 2014 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got a radio a couple of years ago from Best Buy. Good radio, no issues, BUT, I made the mistake of getting a too-low priced unit, and the ON button is a tiny button that requires careful finger press. My and most car radios have the ON button as part of the large (ie. easy to find) volume knob. Get one of those. JMO :-)

Jay Rabe 76 PB Portland, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236516 is a reply to message #236461] Sat, 18 January 2014 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

It seems like the younger you are, the easier it is to operate modern electronics. I often find myself asking one of my kids how to do stuff with my smart phone and computers.

Just last week, I replaced the stereo in our coach with a nice Kenwood deck. It had AM, FM, CD, Bluetooth, USB input, 3.5 mm aux input, etc. etc. My sons will be over this evening for my birthday, and I will get them to show me how to link up my android phone with the deck so I can use Pandora for music.

By the way. I also replaced the front speakers and added two 6.5" speakers in the cockpit side panels. I got the speakers, along with some expert wiring advice, from Jim B. It sounds great. The only thing I still hvae left to do is run wires to the far rear speakers and replace those (also with new ones from Jim B).


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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236523 is a reply to message #236516] Sat, 18 January 2014 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Sat, 18 January 2014 13:08

Rob,
<snip>
Just last week, I replaced the stereo in our coach with a nice Kenwood deck. It had AM, FM, CD, Bluetooth, USB input, 3.5 mm aux input, etc. etc. My sons will be over this evening for my birthday, and I will get them to show me how to link up my android phone with the deck so I can use Pandora for music.
<snip>

Carl,

Don't work so hard.
Get a double ended 3.5 (1/8") stereo cable (Radio Shack 42-692) and plug it in where it fits. Also get a DC mousehole power adapter (if you don't already have one) as this trick will kill the Droid's battery in short order. Now select "Aux" on the dash.

Problem: If you are doing this and using the Droid as a hotspot at the same time, it will get confused when the phone rings.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236531 is a reply to message #236523] Sat, 18 January 2014 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Sat, 18 January 2014 12:19

Carl S. wrote on Sat, 18 January 2014 13:08

Rob,
<snip>
Just last week, I replaced the stereo in our coach with a nice Kenwood deck. It had AM, FM, CD, Bluetooth, USB input, 3.5 mm aux input, etc. etc. My sons will be over this evening for my birthday, and I will get them to show me how to link up my android phone with the deck so I can use Pandora for music.
<snip>

Carl,

Don't work so hard.
Get a double ended 3.5 (1/8") stereo cable (Radio Shack 42-692) and plug it in where it fits. Also get a DC mousehole power adapter (if you don't already have one) as this trick will kill the Droid's battery in short order. Now select "Aux" on the dash.

Problem: If you are doing this and using the Droid as a hotspot at the same time, it will get confused when the phone rings.

Matt


That is another alternative Matt. I already have all the stuff to do that and just might run it that way. The bluetooth seems a little less complicated once I get it set up.









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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236535 is a reply to message #236461] Sat, 18 January 2014 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can control from the radio if it says it is compatible with iOS. Some Sony's do. Don't know about other brands. 

My son's new Honda displays on the car's screen.

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY

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From: Larry Davick
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I believe they connect to your smart-phone and will stream music from them, but I don't know if you can control everything from the phone or if you must use the tiny buttons and twiddlie knob.

Larry Davick
Fremont, California
A Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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G'day,
How easy is it to operate? I have a stereo in Double Trouble that is REALLY hard to operate.
Regards,
Rob M.
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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236554 is a reply to message #236531] Sat, 18 January 2014 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My buddy with the Chevy Volt told me the voice commands work on his iPhone through the car radio.

"Siri, where is the nearest rally?"

Larry Davick
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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236600 is a reply to message #236516] Sun, 19 January 2014 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought my wife a Moto X for Christmas, and invited our daughter over for Christmas and to show her Mama how to work her new phone.  The  child wants - and I am sorting out submissions - a vinyl playing system.  Go figure.  She has promised to convert my vinyl library - 2-300 albums - to .wav fiklles over the next year or so,
 
I pulled the rear wires in the wiring chanel above the cabinets on the driver's side and then went across the front and rear caps with a snake.  Amazon had some exact fit speakers with decent magnets si I used them. 
 
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Rob,

It seems like the younger you are, the easier it is to operate modern electronics.  I often find myself asking one of my kids how to do stuff with my smart phone and computers.

Just last week, I replaced the stereo in our coach with a nice Kenwood deck.  It had AM, FM, CD, Bluetooth, USB input, 3.5 mm aux input, etc. etc.  My sons will be over this evening for my birthday, and I will get them to show me how to link up my android phone with the deck so I can use Pandora for music.

By the way. I also replaced the front speakers and added two 6.5" speakers in the cockpit side panels.  I got the speakers, along with some expert wiring advice, from Jim B.  It sounds great.  The only thing I still hvae left to do is run wires to the far rear speakers and replace those (also with new ones from Jim B). 
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'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.

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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236605 is a reply to message #236432] Sun, 19 January 2014 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>vinyl
Johnny, get her this.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GYTPB8/


I have stayed out of this thread because I don't do music or tv or videos. I never turn on the radio. I do have to continue to support it because my wife still has these bad habits.

I told JimB to just put in a couple of usb ports and leave the radio out of the new Mac dashes. I could use the space better. He had a stroke and my wife hates giving up old technology (just for nostalgic reasons, she *uses* new entertainment tech daily. I still have 8-track to cassete converters in the attic because she can't let go), so we ended up having some sort of mech-less system in the Birch and Royale. Fine. It has usb ports.

My gut call is that you guys are spending a crapload of money supporting old tech. The 2 weaknesses in my viewpoint are that [1] you need some sort of amplifier to drive a speaker system and [2] (as mentioned) if you're into audiobooks and loaner/rental media then the Cracker Barrel and local library are going to be behind the curve for a while longer.

You are all already carrying more computer firepower than you need to drive these coach systems. With a Apple TV module or the Chromecast, you could stream from you personal-device-du-jour to your coach's entertainment system. Put in a cheap dual-voltage hdmi tv and a receiver and your smartphone or tablet becomes both your server and familiar touch-controlled remote.


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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236608 is a reply to message #236432] Sun, 19 January 2014 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have been cable free for a year (Roku) and playon/playlater software; we stream all our media. Our new LCD tv is usb capable, our 2TB hard drive containing hundreds of tv and movies plugs right in, fits in my pocket, and is powered by the USB port. As for audio iPhone/ipad holds several hundred hours of music and provides turn by turn nav, plus if we get bored can stream wth pandora like services, local library provides digital downloads for audiobooks at no charge. Head unit really doesn't need to do much, unless you are an audiophile.

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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236610 is a reply to message #236605] Sun, 19 January 2014 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks!  On the list.
 
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>vinyl
Johnny, get her this.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GYTPB8/


I have stayed out of this thread because I don't do music or tv or videos.  I never turn on the radio.  I do have to continue to support it because my wife still has these bad habits.

I told JimB to just put in a couple of usb ports and leave the radio out of the new Mac dashes. I could use the space better. He had a stroke and my wife hates giving up old technology (just for nostalgic reasons, she *uses* new entertainment tech daily. I still have 8-track to cassete converters in the attic because she can't let go), so we ended up having some sort of mech-less system in the Birch and Royale. Fine. It has usb ports.

My gut call is that you guys are spending a crapload of money supporting old tech.  The 2 weaknesses in my viewpoint are that [1] you need some sort of amplifier to drive a speaker system and [2] (as mentioned) if you're into audiobooks and loaner/rental media then the Cracker Barrel and local library are going to be behind the curve for a while longer.

You are all already carrying more computer firepower than you need to drive these coach systems. With a Apple TV module or the Chromecast, you could stream from you personal-device-du-jour to your coach's entertainment system. Put in a cheap dual-voltage hdmi tv and a receiver and your smartphone or tablet becomes both your server and familiar touch-controlled remote.

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Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo? [message #236616 is a reply to message #236432] Sun, 19 January 2014 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>turntable

Works great, electro-mechanically speaking. Absolutely works as billed. It's learning the software that's the tougher part. Converting vinyl isn't like burning CDs. You have to deal with noise, skips, etc. Stay away from it yourself. Just buy it and let her do the work.

>we stream

Sean, have you patched your setup into the coach's speaker system yet?


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Johnny Bridges wrote on Sun, 19 January 2014 08:07


 
I pulled the rear wires in the wiring chanel above the cabinets on the driver's side and then went across the front and rear caps with a snake.  Amazon had some exact fit speakers with decent magnets si I used them. 
 
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris


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From: Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New Stereo?




The only thing I still have left to do is run wires to the far rear speakers and replace those (also with new ones from Jim B). 
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Carl S.
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.




Thanks for the wiring tip Johnny. My PO added mid cabin speakers in the bottoms of the cabinets, right and left, but just tied in the wires to the front overhead speakers. I managed to get new wires back to those through the chases so I can use the fader on the new deck. I have a plan to get the wires to the rear speakers, but just ran out of time and patience to get it done. Add in the additional PO installed insulation, and it gets difficult, at best, to snake wires back that far. At this point, I have then spliced in at the mid speakers and coiled up in the cabinets. I'll get back at it when I get a roundtuit.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member

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