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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236386 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 10:16   |
Keith V
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Oh thats perfect!
Cost of entry is always more important than fuel economy.
And this thing has both!
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236387 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 10:20 |
lqqkatjon
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I think these things are going to revolutionize. or they have a really good sales team.
I would be on that order list myself, but with 2 kids and a wife...it really would not work for me. Hope to own one in the future when I am doing some travel by myself.
I have not read how much it weights, or other specs for it being a towd vehicle.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236388 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 10:23 |
rcjordan
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I was half-kidding about the towd.
I fully expect something to derail this, but for $100 non-refundable, I'll bite.
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236395 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 11:02 |
rcjordan
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>registered as Motorcycle
Yeah, a while ago I read somewhere that most of these 'commuter' cars will have to be 3-wheel motorcycles or bumper standards, etc. start kicking in.
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236396 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 11:03 |
lqqkatjon
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been watching this for a while now... the guy has run into some road blocks, but seems to be overcoming them. he has a few skeptics out there thinking he cannot sell the car at the price he thinks he can, and not go bankrupt.
Looks like the latest, he was able to secure a deal on a manufacturing plant that 6 months ago, looked like it fell apart.
the other day:
http://www.powersportsbusiness.com/top-stories/2014/01/14/enclosed-roadster-maker-elio-motors-to-begin-operations-at-former-gm-plant/
last sept:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1086835_startup-elio-motors-doesnt-get-to-buy-ex-gm-plant-after-all
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
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St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236398 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 11:11 |
rcjordan
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>bankrupt
I agree. I think this is a doorbuster price. That said, if he's reassembling parts that are already in production for other vehicles it'll e close --but still, that doesn't leave much margin.
I'll add that the $35 Raspberry Pi computer pulled off its success by using mass-produced smartphone parts.
I saw the Elio when they were first announced but didn't sign up. I'm interested now because they made the auto show, have a few prototypes rolling, and announced a relatively close delivery time.
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236413 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 13:22 |
rcjordan
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>flat
Thanks, Dsn. Based on your post, I went looking. Found this:
"IAV is our powertrain designer and we asked them a couple of your questions, here we go:
Can the Elio be towed all wheels down (toad)?
Cody K., Program Manager for IAV says that "yes, as far as the powertrain is concerned it will be able to be used as a toad and pulled with all wheels flat, like behind an RV." Cody continues that as far as towing capacity behind the Elio, IAV is aware of the need and are designing the capacity into the powertrain."
https://www.facebook.com/ElioMotors/posts/552739844790892
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236418 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 14:08 |
rcjordan
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Uh-oh. May need helmet in NC.
"Sales of the vehicle will most certainly hinge on whether buyers are required to get a motorcycle license. Chip Stempeck, Elio Motors' vice president for marketing, said that every state except Kansas would require that the vehicle be registered as a motorcycle based on federal vehicle classifications. So in some states, a person who does not already have a motorcycle license will have to pass that state's motorcycle safety test, possibly on a 2-wheeled motorcycle. That could be a deal breaker for some people.
Then there's the helmet issue. Mr. Stempeck said that while most states would not require the driver to wear a helmet, New York, North Carolina, Nebraska, Mississippi, Missouri, West Virginia and the District of Columbia will.
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/driving-a-work-in-progress-from-elio-motors/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236420 is a reply to message #236418] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 14:11 |
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Yeah, but with that cool airplane look, you could pretend
that your were a fighter pilot! ("talk to me Goose"....).
On 1/17/2014 12:08 PM, RC Jordan wrote:
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> "Sales of the vehicle will most certainly hinge on whether buyers are required to get a motorcycle license. Chip Stempeck, Elio Motors' vice president for marketing, said that every state except Kansas would require that the vehicle be registered as a motorcycle based on federal vehicle classifications. So in some states, a person who does not already have a motorcycle license will have to pass that state's motorcycle safety test, possibly on a 2-wheeled motorcycle. That could be a deal breaker for some people.
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> Then there's the helmet issue. Mr. Stempeck said that while most states would not require the driver to wear a helmet, New York, North Carolina, Nebraska, Mississippi, Missouri, West Virginia and the District of Columbia will.
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> http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/driving-a-work-in-progress-from-elio-motors/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236425 is a reply to message #236419] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 15:47 |
jknezek
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| n6mon wrote on Fri, 17 January 2014 15:06 |
Nice concept, but no information about storage. I can go
from Chicago to LA, but if I can't carry luggage for 2, not
much use. Also. not much use if you don't have room to carry
a couple of bags of groceries home. Like the idea, though.
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Neither of which is what it is designed for. It is designed to take one person to work and home, the vast majority of non-commercial driving that occurs in this country. With our inability to carpool, lack of desire for mass transportation, desire to live in suburbs and exurbs, an inexpensive daily driver for one person to go to work and back can make sense. The ability to put a few groceries in the second seat for making an after work pit stop for milk, eggs, and beer is plenty of storage.
For all other activities, family trips, big box store runs, carpools, etc., a second vehicle would be a must. Not a problem since almost all multi adult member households in this country have multiple vehicles. This is an inexpensive, limited purpose vehicle. Think of it as a safer, air conditioned, weatherproof, commuter focused motorcycle and you'll stop wanting to load it with luggage and drive across the country...
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236427 is a reply to message #236385] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 16:21 |
kerry pinkerton
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For a 'lifeboat' and 'let's go out to dinner' it's perfect. I'd probably fabricate some saddlebags so you could haul some groceries back...
The helmet thing would be an issue for some of the ladies who don't want to muss their hair.
It comes with AC if I recall from the article I read a few months back?
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236434 is a reply to message #236428] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 17:12 |
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You both missed my my point, the MANUFACTURER is the one touting the ability to drive long distances and NO ONE is going to do that in a vehicel with no room for luggage.
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] SOB Toad? > Elio Motors
What Jeremy said. Who would want to drive it cross country. Not me.
The helmet thing will get fixed in all the states, I have no doubt. Will be perfect for what it is designed for. Air conditioning, cruise control, extra, and radio, stick or automatic. I think it will sell like crazy at that price, made in USA.
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOB Toad? > Elio Motors [message #236436 is a reply to message #236434] |
Fri, 17 January 2014 17:18 |
James Hupy
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Hmm, they tour in corvette roadsters, they don't have much room either.
That thing is cheaper than a CanAm three wheeler by a bunch, if it's
proposed sales price holds up.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Jan 17, 2014 3:12 PM, "Terry Taylor" <n6mon@pacbell.net> wrote:
> You both missed my my point, the MANUFACTURER is the one touting the
> ability to drive long distances and NO ONE is going to do that in a vehicel
> with no room for luggage.
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> What Jeremy said. Who would want to drive it cross country. Not me.
> The helmet thing will get fixed in all the states, I have no doubt. Will
> be perfect for what it is designed for. Air conditioning, cruise control,
> extra, and radio, stick or automatic. I think it will sell like crazy at
> that price, made in USA.
> Dan
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> Dexter, Mo.
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