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stick miller is currently offline  stick miller   United States
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I have a 1948 Buick that I rarely drive. I'm just getting around to replacing 40 year old tires and I also need a 6 v. battery. My son wants to use the car in his wedding.

I've probably bought 8 or 9 batteries over the many years I've owned this car. I seem to make my purchase and the park the car for 2-3 years when the battery is totally shot.

Tell me what you know about Battery tenders or other types of battery trickle chargers. Knowing that the car usually sits am I better off to purchase "something" or just follow my pattern of replacing the battery when I need to drive the car?

BTW - the batteries are not cheap - Around $170 for the type that will fit. (2E)

Thanks


Stick Miller
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'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
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Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT [message #236277 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Marten is currently offline  Jeff Marten   United States
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Lots of choices: tenders, desulfators, disconnects, etc. Some of the new tenders do a really good job of keeping the battery charged while not boiling out all the water. It would still be a good idea to periodically check the water level if going that route.

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> I have a 1948 Buick that I rarely drive. I'm just getting around to replacing 40 year old tires and I also need a 6 v. battery. My son wants to use the car in his wedding.
>
> I've probably bought 8 or 9 batteries over the many years I've owned this car. I seem to make my purchase and the park the car for 2-3 years when the battery is totally shot.
>
> Tell me what you know about Battery tenders or other types of battery trickle chargers. Knowing that the car usually sits am I better off to purchase "something" or just follow my pattern of replacing the battery when I need to drive the car?
>
> BTW - the batteries are not cheap - Around $170 for the type that will fit. (2E)
>
> Thanks
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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236280 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Battery tenders are a good idea but good luck finding a 6 volt one. You might have to build one yourself.



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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236283 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rcjordan   United States
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Maybe this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0127-Junior-Charger/dp/B000CIPHT4/


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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236284 is a reply to message #236283] Thu, 16 January 2014 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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rcjordan wrote on Thu, 16 January 2014 10:16

Maybe this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0127-Junior-Charger/dp/B000CIPHT4/


Good Find.


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236285 is a reply to message #236283] Thu, 16 January 2014 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rcjordan wrote on Thu, 16 January 2014 08:16

Maybe this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0127-Junior-Charger/dp/B000CIPHT4/


I have had that guy's big brother for about 5 years. Very happy with it. Use it alternately on a truck, a car, and a forklift that sit a lot, so it has pretty much run continually all that time.

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0128-Plus-Charger/dp/B00068XCQU/ref=pd_sim_auto_9


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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236286 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rcjordan   United States
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I'm currently following gmcnet's advice and going with the Battery Minder brand but happened across that in my materials search. That one's write-up focuses more on "charging" rather than "tending" --also, I didn't see any mention of desulfication.

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Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT [message #236287 is a reply to message #236280] Thu, 16 January 2014 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IMNHO: "Battery Minders" are an improvement over "Battery Tenders."

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT
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> Battery tenders are a good idea but good luck finding a 6 volt one. You might have to build one yourself.
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Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT [message #236289 is a reply to message #236287] Thu, 16 January 2014 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stick miller is currently offline  stick miller   United States
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Found the Battery Minder - looks like the same brand - $50 as opposed to $23. Not that much difference, but worth it?

Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236291 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>$50 as opposed to $23. Not that much difference, but worth it?

I had the same dilemma, but ended up following what Mac said -cancelled the Tender, ordered the Minder. GMCnet seems to prefer the Minder over the Tender. Also, desulfication posts *seem* to point to the Minder.


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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236293 is a reply to message #236291] Thu, 16 January 2014 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stick miller is currently offline  stick miller   United States
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Thanks guys

Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT [message #236296 is a reply to message #236289] Thu, 16 January 2014 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Northern Tool had a special on the Battery Minder back in late Nov/early Dec. at $19.95 each. I bought 5! Be patient, Grasshopper!
Shipped to local Northern Tool store, no shipping charge, but state and local tax of $8.37.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT
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> Found the Battery Minder - looks like the same brand - $50 as opposed to $23. Not that much difference, but worth it?
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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236299 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Stick:

How about this solution: cheaper in the long run.

Set up your coach house batteries to 2- 6 volts and pull one out every time you decide to use the car.( if its anything like other garage queens, it seldom gets used) that way you buy a battery and actually get use of it. At this rate your pulling the car battery all the time anyway.

I know it would likely mean some minor modifications to the battery mounting in the show car , so keep all of the original parts . Once you want to sell the car as "All Original" , return the battery mounting system to original.

If that's not palitable, put a boat battery box in the trunk and run a suitable wire to the engine compartment. ( real easy to convert back to original). (Hell: jaguar, and the New Camaros and Vetts all have batteries in the Trunk)
Just a other idea to consider.

Best regards


John and Cathie Heslinga 1974 Canyonlands 260 455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS, Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd. Edmonton, Alberta
Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236300 is a reply to message #236299] Thu, 16 January 2014 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stick miller is currently offline  stick miller   United States
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Well, let me set the record straight. This is not a show car. It is simply a part of our family that I don't treat very well. When my daughter was born in 1980 I insisted that she ride home from the hospital on a drizzly day in March - no seatbelts - top down. I rode her around the football field when she was homecoming queen and she rode in it at her wedding. Over the years it has never left me by the side of the road. I used to drive it to the Masters every year and it has made the trip to the beach many times. Cats and dogs have slept in it and every year I have to clean the wasp nests out from under the cover that semi-protects it from the elements.

Now it is my son David's turn and I hate to turn him down. He asks for very little and hauling this car to the beach for his wedding is the least I can do (well, not the least). If I was getting off that easy I'd be happy. Since neither the Bride nor the Groom's parents have any money we are splitting the costs of the nuptials.

The GMC has good fresh batteries in it and the Buick takes a long narrow forklift type battery that, apparently, is gold plated. You almost have to pull the right front fender to get it in and out.

I have not the mechanical knowledge to "set up" any kind of battery arrangement and my creaky old back doesn't have too many battery "pulls" from that fender left in it. So I better stick with plan A.

Thanks for the compliment and the suggestion and thanks for letting me tell you a little about our old friend who really deserves a better home. Smile


Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236303 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>I don't treat very well

Those are the Magic Words in my book, Stick. There is nothing I love better than a vehicle that I can repeatedly mistreat and it still hangs around.

My Minder is going on an old, abused F150 that I use 5 or 6 times a year.


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Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236306 is a reply to message #236276] Thu, 16 January 2014 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What a GREAT story!

HAVE FUN at the wedding!!!

Regards



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Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT [message #236312 is a reply to message #236296] Thu, 16 January 2014 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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k2gkk wrote on Thu, 16 January 2014 12:38

Northern Tool had a special on the Battery Minder back in late Nov/early Dec. at $19.95 each. I bought 5! Be patient, Grasshopper!
Shipped to local Northern Tool store, no shipping charge, but state and local tax of $8.37.

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Fine Mac,

But was it 6 Volt??

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT [message #236313 is a reply to message #236312] Thu, 16 January 2014 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stick miller is currently offline  stick miller   United States
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I'm not finding any super cheap 6 volts. I'm in no real hurry.

Spending the day trying to figure out "Dummy Proof" Google Chromecast. Smile


Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
Re: Battery question - sort of OT [message #236314 is a reply to message #236300] Thu, 16 January 2014 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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stick miller wrote on Thu, 16 January 2014 13:34

Well, let me set the record straight. This is not a show car. It is simply a part of our family that I don't treat very well. When my daughter was born in 1980 I insisted that she ride home from the hospital on a drizzly day in March - no seatbelts - top down. I rode her around the football field when she was homecoming queen and she rode in it at her wedding. Over the years it has never left me by the side of the road. I used to drive it to the Masters every year and it has made the trip to the beach many times. Cats and dogs have slept in it and every year I have to clean the wasp nests out from under the cover that semi-protects it from the elements.

Now it is my son David's turn and I hate to turn him down. He asks for very little and hauling this car to the beach for his wedding is the least I can do (well, not the least). If I was getting off that easy I'd be happy. Since neither the Bride nor the Groom's parents have any money we are splitting the costs of the nuptials.

The GMC has good fresh batteries in it and the Buick takes a long narrow forklift type battery that, apparently, is gold plated. You almost have to pull the right front fender to get it in and out.

I have not the mechanical knowledge to "set up" any kind of battery arrangement and my creaky old back doesn't have too many battery "pulls" from that fender left in it. So I better stick with plan A.

Thanks for the compliment and the suggestion and thanks for letting me tell you a little about our old friend who really deserves a better home. Smile

Stick,

I have two ideas (please note that I did not identify the quality)for you.

When young and a poor student, I used to get batteries from a place that "reconditioned" batteries. They were very cheap and would usually last at least until I sold (aka flipped) that car. I don't know if any of these places still exist in the south, but it is worth looking.

Other chance... Look for a commercial battery supplier. There used to be a number of things that used individual cells. If those are still available, you might be able to buy three that fit the space.

Good Luck - Enjoy the wedding.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT [message #236318 is a reply to message #236312] Thu, 16 January 2014 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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No. My last car with 6V system was a 1950 Ford Convertible with flathead V-8 which I sold in May 1961!

I do suspect that Battery Minder folks probably do a 6V version, though.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:32:08 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Battery question - sort of OT
>
>
>
> k2gkk wrote on Thu, 16 January 2014 12:38
> > Northern Tool had a special on the Battery Minder back in late Nov/early Dec. at $19.95 each. I bought 5! Be patient, Grasshopper!
> > Shipped to local Northern Tool store, no shipping charge, but state and local tax of $8.37.
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
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> Fine Mac,
>
> But was it 6 Volt??
>
> Matt
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