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Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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I went to Napa the other day and ordered two carburetor kits. One for a 73 (7043254) and one for a 76 (7045254)carburetor. I got two kits with the same part number Echlin 2-5561A and when I cross referenced it at Napa online it gave me a series of numbers but not any of the two from the GMC motor home:

Carburetor # 17054943, 17054945, 17054946, 7041230, 7041231, 7041232, 7042230, 7042231, 7042232, 7042234, 7042235, 7042236, 7042237, 7042238, 7042239, 7043230, 7043232, 7043233, 7043234, 7043235, 7044230, 7044232, 7044233, 7044234, 7044235, 7044530
w/ Carburetor # 7044532

Is this the right kit for my carburetors


Bruce Hart 1976 Palm Beach 1977 28' Kingsley La Grange, Wyoming
Re: Carb kit [message #235920 is a reply to message #235919] Sun, 12 January 2014 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think you will be just fine, open one kit and compare the top gasket with the one on your carbs, the kit should include 2-3 different ones and I will bet that you find one that is identical.

Then look at the other gaskets and the lenght of the acc pump shaft and the diametre of acc pump if they are the same you are ready to go.


1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway
Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235939 is a reply to message #235920] Sun, 12 January 2014 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you buy a Generic Carburetor kit like the echlin or napa ones, about
all you are getting is a gasket set. In order to fit a large variety of
carbs with one part number, they usually include several different gaskets
for the air horn assembly, and throttle body to float bowl etc. Quite
often, they are not the same material as the Genuine GM Goodwrench or
Rochester kits. Not to say that they are inferior to the Real deal, just
different. Remember, the carbs are all approaching 40 years old, and the
OEM only had to produce parts for the follow on 20 years or so. Tip that I
learned is that Crusader Marine and Mercury Marine have "Rebuilder Kits"
for quadrajet carbs and they are sometimes available through marine
dealers. As for the number specific carb kits, about all you will find now
available is New/old stock left over from warehouse stock and bought up by
Cinabar or a few other suppliers. If you want internal parts that differ
from what the motorhome carbs used, it is often a lengthy search to find
the stuff. I personally think that a Dick Paterson rebuild on ignition or
carburetor is well worth the money. They truly are a plug and play
replacement for what should have been on your coach when it left the
factory. But, what the heck, lessons learned by experience are the most
long lasting ones, even the bad lessons. (grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:

>
>
> I think you will be just fine, open one kit and compare the top gasket
> with the one on your carbs, the kit should include 2-3 different ones and I
> will bet that you find one that is identical.
>
> Then look at the other gaskets and the lenght of the acc pump shaft and
> the diametre of acc pump if they are the same you are ready to go.
> --
> 1973 26' Parrot green Seqouia in Norway
> "Loffen" translates to white bread, it is also a nick name for your.. well
> you know..down there.. and it was my dog's name, but hey you can also call
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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235942 is a reply to message #235919] Sun, 12 January 2014 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Bruce

The proper overhaul kit for the 7043254 is a Delco 7046812. For the 7045254 it is a Delco 17051886.

AC/Delco may have changed the part numbers but those were the original ones.

The Napa kit is not the right one for your carbs. You might be able to use the gaskets but be very careful that all the holes are in the right place.

Emery Stora


On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:43 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I went to Napa the other day and ordered two carburetor kits. One for a 73 (7043254) and one for a 76 (7045254)carburetor. I got two kits with the same part number Echlin 2-5561A and when I cross referenced it at Napa online it gave me a series of numbers but not any of the two from the GMC motor home:
>
> Carburetor # 17054943, 17054945, 17054946, 7041230, 7041231, 7041232, 7042230, 7042231, 7042232, 7042234, 7042235, 7042236, 7042237, 7042238, 7042239, 7043230, 7043232, 7043233, 7043234, 7043235, 7044230, 7044232, 7044233, 7044234, 7044235, 7044530
> w/ Carburetor # 7044532
>
> Is this the right kit for my carburetors
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> 1976 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235944 is a reply to message #235942] Sun, 12 January 2014 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Thanks for the info Emery.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruce
>
> The proper overhaul kit for the 7043254 is a Delco 7046812. For the
> 7045254 it is a Delco 17051886.
>
> AC/Delco may have changed the part numbers but those were the original
> ones.
>
> The Napa kit is not the right one for your carbs. You might be able to
> use the gaskets but be very careful that all the holes are in the right
> place.
>
> Emery Stora
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:43 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I went to Napa the other day and ordered two carburetor kits. One for a
> 73 (7043254) and one for a 76 (7045254)carburetor. I got two kits with the
> same part number Echlin 2-5561A and when I cross referenced it at Napa
> online it gave me a series of numbers but not any of the two from the GMC
> motor home:
> >
> > Carburetor # 17054943, 17054945, 17054946, 7041230, 7041231, 7041232,
> 7042230, 7042231, 7042232, 7042234, 7042235, 7042236, 7042237, 7042238,
> 7042239, 7043230, 7043232, 7043233, 7043234, 7043235, 7044230, 7044232,
> 7044233, 7044234, 7044235, 7044530
> > w/ Carburetor # 7044532
> >
> > Is this the right kit for my carburetors
> > --
> > Bruce Hart
> > 1976 Palm Beach
> > Milliken, Co
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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235945 is a reply to message #235942] Sun, 12 January 2014 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well good luck on finding those sets and if you do they will NOS and I would never use a 10 years or older kit to rebuild my carb for several reasons.

If it was my carb I would have used a set like this for the 7043254 and 7045254
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-74-75-76-OLDS-ROCHESTER-QUADRAJET-4-CARBURETOR-KIT-Good-with-Todays-Fuel-/161187455863?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessor ies&hash=item2587856377&vxp=mtr

I do not mean to be rude Emery but those old kit's where never made for todays gas and delco do not even have a cross reference to them.( http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php )

And the Napa kit is more than good enough for the carbs, why do you say that is not the right one ?




emerystora wrote on Sun, 12 January 2014 18:49

Hi Bruce

The proper overhaul kit for the 7043254 is a Delco 7046812. For the 7045254 it is a Delco 17051886.

AC/Delco may have changed the part numbers but those were the original ones.

The Napa kit is not the right one for your carbs. You might be able to use the gaskets but be very careful that all the holes are in the right place.

Emery Stora


On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:43 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I went to Napa the other day and ordered two carburetor kits. One for a 73 (7043254) and one for a 76 (7045254)carburetor. I got two kits with the same part number Echlin 2-5561A and when I cross referenced it at Napa online it gave me a series of numbers but not any of the two from the GMC motor home:
>
> Carburetor # 17054943, 17054945, 17054946, 7041230, 7041231, 7041232, 7042230, 7042231, 7042232, 7042234, 7042235, 7042236, 7042237, 7042238, 7042239, 7043230, 7043232, 7043233, 7043234, 7043235, 7044230, 7044232, 7044233, 7044234, 7044235, 7044530
> w/ Carburetor # 7044532
>
> Is this the right kit for my carburetors
> --
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> 1976 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235948 is a reply to message #235945] Sun, 12 January 2014 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was not suggesting buying old stock. I indicated that Delco may have changed the numbers and perhaps a new kit might be available. I haven't had a carb since 1993 so I haven't had to try to get a kit.

I did not take your comments as being rude so please don't take mine as being rude either.. Why do you say that the NAPA kit is "more than good enough"? What do you base that statement on? They don't list the carb numbers for the GMC motorhome. In the past some GMCers have posted that they have had problems with the auto parts store kits as they did not have the proper gaskets, the power piston was wrong, etc. I would suggest that Dick Paterson be contacted for his input of the right carb kit to use.

Emery Stora

On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:

>
>
> Well good luck on finding those sets and if you do they will NOS and I would never use a 10 years or older kit to rebuild my carb for several reasons.
>
> If it was my carb I would have used a set like this for the 7043254 and 7045254
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-74-75-76-OLDS-ROCHESTER-QUADRAJET-4-CARBURETOR-KIT-Good-with-Todays-Fuel-/161187455863?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessor ies&hash=item2587856377&vxp=mtr
>
> I do not mean to be rude Emery but those old kit's where never made for todays gas and delco do not even have a cross reference to them.( http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php )
>
> And the Napa kit is more than good enough for the carbs, why do you say that is not the right one ?
>
>
>
>
> emerystora wrote on Sun, 12 January 2014 18:49
>> Hi Bruce
>>
>> The proper overhaul kit for the 7043254 is a Delco 7046812. For the 7045254 it is a Delco 17051886.
>>
>> AC/Delco may have changed the part numbers but those were the original ones.
>>
>> The Napa kit is not the right one for your carbs. You might be able to use the gaskets but be very careful that all the holes are in the right place.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:43 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I went to Napa the other day and ordered two carburetor kits. One for a 73 (7043254) and one for a 76 (7045254)carburetor. I got two kits with the same part number Echlin 2-5561A and when I cross referenced it at Napa online it gave me a series of numbers but not any of the two from the GMC motor home:
>>>
>>> Carburetor # 17054943, 17054945, 17054946, 7041230, 7041231, 7041232, 7042230, 7042231, 7042232, 7042234, 7042235, 7042236, 7042237, 7042238, 7042239, 7043230, 7043232, 7043233, 7043234, 7043235, 7044230, 7044232, 7044233, 7044234, 7044235, 7044530
>>> w/ Carburetor # 7044532
>>>
>>> Is this the right kit for my carburetors
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hart
>>> 1976 Palm Beach
>>> Milliken, Co
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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235951 is a reply to message #235948] Sun, 12 January 2014 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I base my statment that it is more than good enough for the carbs becouse I did a cross reference on the carb numbers listed on this web page http://www.carburetion.com/CarbNumber.asp
As I do not have the Napa master catalog it is the only way to do it and they all use the same kit.

And to be on the safe side I asked Bruce to compare his gasket with the one in the set in my first post.

If you want to take it further so do this page list several kit numbers, I did not check them but if you have the time I am sure the carbs will show up
http://www.mypartsgarage.com/wells-carburetor-repair-kit-ck836.html

emerystora wrote on Sun, 12 January 2014 20:23

I was not suggesting buying old stock. I indicated that Delco may have changed the numbers and perhaps a new kit might be available. I haven't had a carb since 1993 so I haven't had to try to get a kit.

I did not take your comments as being rude so please don't take mine as being rude either.. Why do you say that the NAPA kit is "more than good enough"? What do you base that statement on? They don't list the carb numbers for the GMC motorhome. In the past some GMCers have posted that they have had problems with the auto parts store kits as they did not have the proper gaskets, the power piston was wrong, etc. I would suggest that Dick Paterson be contacted for his input of the right carb kit to use.

Emery Stora

On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:

>
>
> Well good luck on finding those sets and if you do they will NOS and I would never use a 10 years or older kit to rebuild my carb for several reasons.
>
> If it was my carb I would have used a set like this for the 7043254 and 7045254
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-74-75-76-OLDS-ROCHESTER-QUADRAJET-4-CARBURETOR-KIT-Good-with-Todays-Fuel-/161187455863?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessor ies&hash=item2587856377&vxp=mtr
>
> I do not mean to be rude Emery but those old kit's where never made for todays gas and delco do not even have a cross reference to them.( http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php )
>
> And the Napa kit is more than good enough for the carbs, why do you say that is not the right one ?
>
>
>
>
> emerystora wrote on Sun, 12 January 2014 18:49
>> Hi Bruce
>>
>> The proper overhaul kit for the 7043254 is a Delco 7046812. For the 7045254 it is a Delco 17051886.
>>
>> AC/Delco may have changed the part numbers but those were the original ones.
>>
>> The Napa kit is not the right one for your carbs. You might be able to use the gaskets but be very careful that all the holes are in the right place.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:43 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I went to Napa the other day and ordered two carburetor kits. One for a 73 (7043254) and one for a 76 (7045254)carburetor. I got two kits with the same part number Echlin 2-5561A and when I cross referenced it at Napa online it gave me a series of numbers but not any of the two from the GMC motor home:
>>>
>>> Carburetor # 17054943, 17054945, 17054946, 7041230, 7041231, 7041232, 7042230, 7042231, 7042232, 7042234, 7042235, 7042236, 7042237, 7042238, 7042239, 7043230, 7043232, 7043233, 7043234, 7043235, 7044230, 7044232, 7044233, 7044234, 7044235, 7044530
>>> w/ Carburetor # 7044532
>>>
>>> Is this the right kit for my carburetors
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hart
>>> 1976 Palm Beach
>>> Milliken, Co
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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235966 is a reply to message #235951] Sun, 12 January 2014 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't have the time or the inclination to do any research on this topic. It would be better for someone that uses a carb and who needs a kit to do so.

When I just supplied information from my files I didn't think that it would generate such a controversy.

I still think Dick Paterson would be the one to check with.

Emery Stora

On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:

>
>
> I base my statment that it is more than good enough for the carbs becouse I did a cross reference on the carb numbers listed on this web page http://www.carburetion.com/CarbNumber.asp
> As I do not have the Napa master catalog it is the only way to do it and they all use the same kit.
>
> And to be on the safe side I asked Bruce to compare his gasket with the one in the set in my first post.
>
> If you want to take it further so do this page list several kit numbers, I did not check them but if you have the time I am sure the carbs will show up
> http://www.mypartsgarage.com/wells-carburetor-repair-kit-ck836.html
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Re: Carb kit [message #235968 is a reply to message #235919] Sun, 12 January 2014 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce:

For Another outstanding resource for your carb, Go to
http://quadrajetparts.com/

I've used them on a number of occasions (ive rebuilt plenty of quadrajets) and really happy with what they can get you. Most local parts suppliers, including GM Dealerships ( they dont have the GMC motorhome kits I ask for) simply go wide eyed and say they have nothing.

They are very good to talk to and they can get you most things you need for your carb. Make sure you also get a float and change it out ( needed or not) ( I'm not sure why these are not just included in a kit) and also ensure the vacuum pot works properly.

Their kits are fresh and they claim all parts are ethanol compatable.
Get this kit for both Carbs.

http://quadrajetparts.com/rochester-quadrajet-parts-quadrajet-rebuild-kits-quadrajet-rebuild-kit-fits-1970-cadillac-1973-chevygmc-1966-oldmobile-q4002 a-p-554.html

You will see that the GMC Motorhome is even listed in the description.

Be careful when comparing gaskets in marine kits. Marine carbs are designed to vent differently than automotive applications ( explosion proofing). I have no experience using them. just saying be careful.


John and Cathie Heslinga 1974 Canyonlands 260 455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS, Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd. Edmonton, Alberta

[Updated on: Sun, 12 January 2014 16:10]

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Re: Carb kit [message #235972 is a reply to message #235919] Sun, 12 January 2014 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Heslinga   Canada
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Crap!!!!

I put the wrong link in the message!!!

Here is the right one

http://quadrajetparts.com/

If you reading the forum I corrected it in the text.

Sorry


John and Cathie Heslinga 1974 Canyonlands 260 455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS, Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd. Edmonton, Alberta
Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235978 is a reply to message #235966] Sun, 12 January 2014 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery,

My understanding was that, when Rochester bailed out of the carb business,
they sold the rights to their carb kit business to an outfit in
North Carolina that only makes three actual gasket sets. Because of that, I
get all my Q-Jet stuff from Cliff Ruggles, who wrote the
current bible on Q-Jets. Fortunately, he's only about 25 miles up the road
from me. He also had made some thicker top cover gaskets
that are good for sealing against minor warpage of the top cover. Of
course, he has many other parts available.
I realize you don't need any Q-Jet parts, but others on here might. HTH

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500 Cad
Newark, Oh


-----Original Message-----
From: Emery Stora
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I don't have the time or the inclination to do any research on this topic.
It would be better for someone that uses a carb and who needs a kit to do
so.

When I just supplied information from my files I didn't think that it would
generate such a controversy.

I still think Dick Paterson would be the one to check with.

Emery Stora


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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235985 is a reply to message #235966] Sun, 12 January 2014 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did just think your answer was pretty strange and was making some confusion , sure it is great to use the original part # as a reference but to state that they are the proper overhaul kits ? even if you mention that the part # might have changed there might have been an ide to check if they still are available ?

Then you say that the Napa kit is not the right one for your carb, why did you do that ? was it just based on the part # Bruce had in his post ?

I do not mean to start any controversy and I have a great deal of respect for you, but after working with spare parts for US cars for over 20 years I have learnd a trick or two for locating the correct part, and when it comes to questions like this one from Bruce I usually dubble check before I answer especially if I am unsure.

And yes I did use some time before I did answer Bruce regarding the Napa kit just to make sure that he had the right or wrong kit, becouse this site gives me a lot of good information and it deserves to get good information in return.

And now I am done Smile

Emery Stora wrote on Sun, 12 January 2014 22:59

I don't have the time or the inclination to do any research on this topic. It would be better for someone that uses a carb and who needs a kit to do so.

When I just supplied information from my files I didn't think that it would generate such a controversy.

I still think Dick Paterson would be the one to check with.

Emery Stora







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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235987 is a reply to message #235985] Sun, 12 January 2014 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Well, if the kit has a power piston (valve) in it DON'T USE IT as the motorhome uses a unique spring with the proper pressure. If the kit is for a car that part won't work.

If anyone needs the information on that part contact me off net as I am through with the new "carb kit war". As they say, "don't shoot the messenger".

Emery Stora

On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:

>
>
> I did just think your answer was pretty strange and was making some confusion , sure it is great to use the original part # as a reference but to state that they are the proper overhaul kits ? even if you mention that the part # might have changed there might have been an ide to check if they still are available ?
>
> Then you say that the Napa kit is not the right one for your carb, why did you do that ? was it just based on the part # Bruce had in his post ?
>
> I do not mean to start any controversy and I have a great deal of respect for you, but after working with spare parts for US cars for over 20 years I have learnd a trick or two for locating the correct part, and when it comes to questions like this one from Bruce I usually dubble check before I answer especially if I am unsure.
>
> And yes I did use some time before I did answer Bruce regarding the Napa kit just to make sure that he had the right or wrong kit just becouse this site gives me a lot of good information and it deserves to get good information in return.
>
> And now I am done :)
>
> Emery Stora wrote on Sun, 12 January 2014 22:59
>> I don't have the time or the inclination to do any research on this topic. It would be better for someone that uses a carb and who needs a kit to do so.
>>
>> When I just supplied information from my files I didn't think that it would generate such a controversy.
>>
>> I still think Dick Paterson would be the one to check with.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #235997 is a reply to message #235987] Sun, 12 January 2014 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The part number on the power piston spring is 7036019 and the cut-in point is 8-4 inches of vacuum, you can get it here for $ 0.99
http://allcarbs.com/detail.php?pid=1007&gb=1&ctgn=40&stt=20


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Re: [GMCnet] Carb kit [message #236201 is a reply to message #235945] Wed, 15 January 2014 06:59 Go to previous message
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Older carbs need more than just a cleaning and a "kit".  There are worn out parts, yes they have to be refitted to not mekt with ethanol and they must be checked with a 3 gas anizer and run up on a motor before it can be called good to go.  One person does not have the expertice or the equipement to do all of that.  We charge $285 to totally remanufacture your carb.  It will be put on a flow bench, a motor using a 3 gas analizer and whatever parts are bad will be replaced.  There may be small adds for those replaced hard parts but overall, $285 will do it.
 
This is the right way to go.  Others also offer similar services,
 
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Well good luck on finding those sets and if you do they will NOS and I would never use a 10 years or older kit to rebuild my carb for several reasons.

If it was my carb I would have used a set like this for the 7043254 and 7045254
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-74-75-76-OLDS-ROCHESTER-QUADRAJET-4-CARBURETOR-KIT-Good-with-Todays-Fuel-/161187455863?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessor ies&hash=item2587856377&vxp=mtr

I do not mean to be rude Emery but those old kit's where never made for todays gas and delco do not even have a cross reference to them.( http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php)

And the Napa kit is more than good enough for the carbs, why do you say that is not the right one ?




emerystora wrote on Sun, 12 January 2014 18:49
> Hi Bruce
>
> The proper overhaul kit for the 7043254 is a Delco 7046812.  For the 7045254 it is a Delco 17051886.
>
> AC/Delco may have changed the part numbers but those were the original ones.
>
> The Napa kit is not the right one for your carbs.  You might be able to use the gaskets but be very careful that all the holes are in the right place.
>
> Emery Stora
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:43 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I went to Napa the other day and ordered two carburetor kits. One for a 73 (7043254) and one for a 76 (7045254)carburetor. I got two kits with the same part number Echlin 2-5561A and when I cross referenced it at Napa online it gave me a series of numbers but not any of the two from the GMC motor home:
> >
> > Carburetor # 17054943, 17054945, 17054946, 7041230, 7041231, 7041232, 7042230, 7042231, 7042232, 7042234, 7042235, 7042236, 7042237, 7042238, 7042239, 7043230, 7043232, 7043233, 7043234, 7043235, 7044230, 7044232, 7044233, 7044234, 7044235, 7044530
> > w/ Carburetor # 7044532
> >
> > Is this the right kit for my carburetors 
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