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BG 109 [message #235574] Thu, 09 January 2014 08:44 Go to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Earlier in last year I had asked if anyone had any information or had used the product BG 109.

When I bought my coach 2 years ago I was told that the previous original owner Daniel Bowers)had rebuilt the engine but no receipts were available from the second party.

I did a compression test on 6-3-2013 with the following results:

Compression Test 131600mi

1 120 2 115
3 105 4 115
5 125 6 110
7 125 8 120
AVG-116.875

When I serviced my coach for the winter I added a can of BG 109 and drove it around for ten minutes to get the engine warmed up for an oil change. 6 weeks later (had to borrow the compression gauge back from my brother) I took another reading with the following results:

Compression Test 11-25-13
Added BG109

1 125 2 130
3 120 4 140
5 125 6 120
7 135 8 125
AVG-127.5

The average compression reading increased by 10psi. I was amazed at this. This is only one test and am wondering if anyone else has tried the BG 109 and got similar or different results.

By the way my elevation is just under 5000 feet.





Bruce Hart 1976 Palm Beach 1977 28' Kingsley La Grange, Wyoming
Re: BG 109 [message #235578 is a reply to message #235574] Thu, 09 January 2014 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Here is a link to the BG 109
http://www.bgprod.co.uk/AutoProducts/Oil/109.htm

The local Napa store carries this product.


Bruce Hart 1976 Palm Beach 1977 28' Kingsley La Grange, Wyoming
Re: BG 109 [message #235593 is a reply to message #235574] Thu, 09 January 2014 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
noi is currently offline  noi   United States
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Awwww Mannn - This sure sucked me in Confused

I thought someone had found a new variant of the BF 109 Shocked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109

Laughing
Re: [GMCnet] BG 109 [message #235638 is a reply to message #235574] Thu, 09 January 2014 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Bruce,

This is interesting IF the engine temp was the same (approximately) both times you did the compression tests, please confirm that
was the case.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hart

Earlier in last year I had asked if anyone had any information or had used the product BG 109.

When I bought my coach 2 years ago I was told that the previous original owner Daniel Bowers)had rebuilt the engine but no receipts
were available from the second party.

I did a compression test on 6-3-2013 with the following results:

Compression Test 131600mi

1 120 2 115
3 105 4 115
5 125 6 110
7 125 8 120
AVG-116.875

When I serviced my coach for the winter I added a can of BG 109 and drove it around for ten minutes to get the engine warmed up for
an oil change. 6 weeks later (had to borrow the compression gauge back from my brother) I took another reading with the following
results:

Compression Test 11-25-13
Added BG109

1 125 2 130
3 120 4 140
5 125 6 120
7 135 8 125
AVG-127.5

The average compression reading increased by 10psi. I was amazed at this. This is only one test and am wondering if anyone else has
tried the BG 109 and got similar or different results.

By the way my elevation is just under 5000 feet.

Bruce

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Re: [GMCnet] BG 109 [message #235664 is a reply to message #235638] Thu, 09 January 2014 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Rob, to be honest I don't recall the details of the first test. I would
rather think that I did have the engine up to temp.

I could redo the test with the engine cold as well as with the engine at
temp to see how they compare to the first testing I did but I don't think
that would solve anything.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> This is interesting IF the engine temp was the same (approximately) both
> times you did the compression tests, please confirm that
> was the case.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Hart
>
> Earlier in last year I had asked if anyone had any information or had used
> the product BG 109.
>
> When I bought my coach 2 years ago I was told that the previous original
> owner Daniel Bowers)had rebuilt the engine but no receipts
> were available from the second party.
>
> I did a compression test on 6-3-2013 with the following results:
>
> Compression Test 131600mi
>
> 1 120 2 115
> 3 105 4 115
> 5 125 6 110
> 7 125 8 120
> AVG-116.875
>
> When I serviced my coach for the winter I added a can of BG 109 and drove
> it around for ten minutes to get the engine warmed up for
> an oil change. 6 weeks later (had to borrow the compression gauge back
> from my brother) I took another reading with the following
> results:
>
> Compression Test 11-25-13
> Added BG109
>
> 1 125 2 130
> 3 120 4 140
> 5 125 6 120
> 7 135 8 125
> AVG-127.5
>
> The average compression reading increased by 10psi. I was amazed at this.
> This is only one test and am wondering if anyone else has
> tried the BG 109 and got similar or different results.
>
> By the way my elevation is just under 5000 feet.
>
> Bruce
>
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Re: [GMCnet] BG 109 [message #235666 is a reply to message #235664] Thu, 09 January 2014 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Bruce,

The increase you found could have been caused by the increase in engine temperature.

As I understand it results from a compression test on a cold engine will be lower than a compression test on a hot engine that's why
I asked.

Disclaimer: I could be wrong about that! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hart

Rob, to be honest I don't recall the details of the first test. I would
rather think that I did have the engine up to temp.

I could redo the test with the engine cold as well as with the engine at
temp to see how they compare to the first testing I did but I don't think
that would solve anything.



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Re: [GMCnet] BG 109 [message #235672 is a reply to message #235666] Thu, 09 January 2014 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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As I checked out BG's web site, the testimonies all claim to have
increased compression after using the product but again no verifiable
proof..


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> The increase you found could have been caused by the increase in engine
> temperature.
>
> As I understand it results from a compression test on a cold engine will
> be lower than a compression test on a hot engine that's why
> I asked.
>
> Disclaimer: I could be wrong about that! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Hart
>
> Rob, to be honest I don't recall the details of the first test. I would
> rather think that I did have the engine up to temp.
>
> I could redo the test with the engine cold as well as with the engine at
> temp to see how they compare to the first testing I did but I don't think
> that would solve anything.
>
>
>
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Re: BG 109 [message #235688 is a reply to message #235574] Thu, 09 January 2014 22:54 Go to previous message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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I'm a retired mechanic who has used and still use BG Products.
When I was moving up here to get married and live I purchased CASES and CASES of their products to be sure I would have them. Very Happy


Now, if you want a real bang for your buck - buy their Engine purge Kit.

It will clean:

1) The bottom end of your engine with the engine flush in the oil
2) It will clean everything in the fuel system where ever the gas goes and it also cleans carbon build up on the top of pistons and even the valves - with the 44K in your fuel.

I use the engine flush kit on any used vehicle I purchase.
BTW - the only Vehicle in my 53 yr old life that I have purchased new was my 2000 Harley Softial.

I know their products work first hand!!!
When in business I have stood behind their products to my customers for years.

Here is a picture of my last engine flush kit sitting near my computer.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p52326-bg-engine-flush-kit-by-bg-products.html

Tony


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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